Ulster Ravens vs Bridgend Ravens
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Realistically, what are the chances of Cochrane overtaking Bowe, Trimble and Gilroy in a HEC team? Pretty slim, unless there are lots of injuries.
He is really battling it out to be fourth choice winger with Allen, and Allen is 2 years younger and can play at centre as well.
If he takes the chance and scores a bucketload, great. But its been mentioned already that he has already been leapfrogged by younger players a couple of times, and if there is another up-and-coming academy prospect 4 or 5 years younger, UR will likely favour them as well.
He is really battling it out to be fourth choice winger with Allen, and Allen is 2 years younger and can play at centre as well.
If he takes the chance and scores a bucketload, great. But its been mentioned already that he has already been leapfrogged by younger players a couple of times, and if there is another up-and-coming academy prospect 4 or 5 years younger, UR will likely favour them as well.
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I remember seeing Cochrane playing for the Ireland under 20s (21s?) and thought he was gonna be the next "big thing". That seems like years ago!
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Indeed I am, because your first post talked about the people above you agreeing with your post... (which they didnt)by gannonman » Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:06 pm
You are speaking for about 5 people who have commented on this page.
You wern't talking about what has been said at other time in other threads ... and neither was I.
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I think in fairness to Cochrane, and gannonman can correct me if I'm wrong, I think he has had a number of long-term injuries which has kept him out for large parts of a couple of seasons - which undoubtedly held back his progress through the academy. Every time I've seen him I must say I've been impressed, he is good at slipping contact, or taking it on his terms, he's quick, and he's a heck of a finisher.mikerob wrote:Realistically, what are the chances of Cochrane overtaking Bowe, Trimble and Gilroy in a HEC team? Pretty slim, unless there are lots of injuries.
He is really battling it out to be fourth choice winger with Allen, and Allen is 2 years younger and can play at centre as well.
If he takes the chance and scores a bucketload, great. But its been mentioned already that he has already been leapfrogged by younger players a couple of times, and if there is another up-and-coming academy prospect 4 or 5 years younger, UR will likely favour them as well.
I think that before any of us have seen much of any given player, it's hard to imagine him overtaking the incumbent - it appears unlikely in advance, but very obvious and logical in hindsight. Over the last few years, while he has been in the academy, Ulster have released back 3 players Seymour, McCrea, Smith, McIlwaine, McKenzie and Quinn - but they've kept him on and given him a development contract, so they must see something in him..
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darkside lightside wrote:I think in fairness to Cochrane, and gannonman can correct me if I'm wrong, I think he has had a number of long-term injuries which has kept him out for large parts of a couple of seasons - which undoubtedly held back his progress through the academy. Every time I've seen him I must say I've been impressed, he is good at slipping contact, or taking it on his terms, he's quick, and he's a heck of a finisher.mikerob wrote:Realistically, what are the chances of Cochrane overtaking Bowe, Trimble and Gilroy in a HEC team? Pretty slim, unless there are lots of injuries.
He is really battling it out to be fourth choice winger with Allen, and Allen is 2 years younger and can play at centre as well.
If he takes the chance and scores a bucketload, great. But its been mentioned already that he has already been leapfrogged by younger players a couple of times, and if there is another up-and-coming academy prospect 4 or 5 years younger, UR will likely favour them as well.
I think that before any of us have seen much of any given player, it's hard to imagine him overtaking the incumbent - it appears unlikely in advance, but very obvious and logical in hindsight. Over the last few years, while he has been in the academy, Ulster have released back 3 players Seymour, McCrea, Smith, McIlwaine, McKenzie and Quinn - but they've kept him on and given him a development contract, so they must see something in him..
Who is the ''Quinn'' who was either in the Academy or on a contract with Ulster and was released ?
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Of the above 6 players.by darkside lightside » Tue Nov 06, 2012 4:27 pm
Ulster have released back 3 players Seymour, McCrea, Smith, McIlwaine, McKenzie and Quinn
Seymore left for a full contract in Scotland rather than take a one year extension here
McCrea was offered a poor deal here and advised to go to Connacht
Smith again was offered a contract here, but was offered a better one in Wales and advised to take it
McIlwaine was offered an extension to his academy contract but chose to seek out first team rugby in England
McKenzie, I have no idea
Quinn - Im not sure anyone here has ever heard of him
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I assume he is talking about Chris Quinn, think he now plays for hinch
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McKenzie was released in the middle of a season a few years back to go to I think Exeter when they were in the championship.
At the time Jonny Shiels had started to be selected ahead of him
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Paul McKenzie? Played at Dungannon last season now player/coach at Donaghadee?
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UlsterNo9 wrote:Paul McKenzie? Played at Dungannon last season now player/coach at Donaghadee?
Yep
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Poor old gannonman..... Left the board at the same time as Cochrane left UR.
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