Remembrance

twiglet · Post by **twiglet** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:46 pm

I watched Ospreys on Friday play with a poppy on their shirt. The Barbarians also had a poppy on their shirt for their match against Australia. I was wondering if there was a reason why Ulster didn't have a poppy on their shirt for the match against the Dragons.

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:50 pm

twiglet wrote:I watched Ospreys on Friday play with a poppy on their shirt. The Barbarians also had a poppy on their shirt for their match against Australia. I was wondering if there was a reason why Ulster didn't have a poppy on their shirt for the match against the Dragons.

God, can you imagine the carnage from the vocal minority?
QuB Sinn Fein would have rioted

twiglet · Post by **twiglet** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 1:57 pm

I think that if the views of QUB Sinn Fein were listened to by the Ulster branch there would be quite a few supporters (including season ticket holders) who would not be back.

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:03 pm

I am in full agreement that we should have a poppy on our shirts by the way

Dave · Post by **Dave** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:17 pm

If there was some way to remember the fallen from the world wars across all of the allied troops that would be great. The poppy isn't it, which is a shame.

Kofi Annan · Post by **Kofi Annan** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:46 pm

Dave wrote:If there was some way to remember the fallen from the world wars across all of the allied troops that would be great. The poppy isn't it, which is a shame.

Question: why is the poppy not it and what would you propose , a shamrock perhaps , a fig leaf, or a pork sausage?

And since we are now All Europeans should we not remember ALL the dead from both wars, the soldiers in particular did not chose to go to war. Nor did civilian chose to be blown up .

big mervyn · Post by **big mervyn** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 2:59 pm

Poppies on sports shirts are crass.

I applaud the wendyball teams that have refused to join that media hyped bandwagon and neither should Ulster. I'm sure a fitting tribute will be paid at the memorial gates as ususual.

Kofi Annan · Post by **Kofi Annan** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:06 pm

big mervyn wrote:Poppies on sports shirts are crass.

I applaud the wendyball teams that have refused to join that media hyped bandwagon and neither should Ulster. I'm sure a fitting tribute will be paid at the memorial gates as ususual.

Maybe football turned it down due to having japs and Germans in their teams and did not want to offend , is there any German or Japs playing in the Pro12 I can't recall any other than yon chap Hans Indaruck

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:24 pm

Can anyone explain why people go out of their way to be offended by a poppy?

big mervyn · Post by **big mervyn** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:39 pm

Russ wrote:Can anyone explain why people go out of their way to be offended by a poppy?

In Ireland maybe tha Black and Tans, Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy may cloud the views of some.

A more recent trend is the regrettable politicalization of poppies in GB due in no small part to unpopular foreign policies combined with a growth poppy facism in the media and political circles.

Russ · Post by **Russ** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:40 pm

big mervyn wrote:
Russ wrote:Can anyone explain why people go out of their way to be offended by a poppy?
In Ireland maybe tha Black and Tans, Bloody Sunday and Ballymurphy may cloud the views of some.

A more recent trend is the regrettable politicalization of poppies in GB due in no small part to unpopular foreign policies combined with a growth poppy facism in the media and political circles.

So people are offended for little to nothing
Probably should get over it

big mervyn · Post by **big mervyn** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:42 pm

Btw, saw Alex the fish the day wearing an enamel pin with a poppy superimposed on a saltire - crass in the extrem imo.

Indiana · Post by **Indiana** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:45 pm

To be fair Russ I can see why the 'poppy' upsets some people when we see terrorists hi-jack them and use them for memorial gardens and murals on gable ends. Personally the poppy is a solemn reminder of the sacrifices that the armed services of UK and the commonwealth gave and are still giving today in order that we can enjoy our freedom (and for some people that includes the freedom to be offended). I think the poppy deserves proper respect for what and who it really stands for.

big mervyn · Post by **big mervyn** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:51 pm

Indiana wrote:To be fair Russ I can see why the 'poppy' upsets some people when we see terrorists hi-jack them and use them for memorial gardens and murals on gable ends. Personally the poppy is a solemn reminder of the sacrifices that the armed services of UK and the commonwealth gave and are still giving today in order that we can enjoy our freedom (and for some people that includes the freedom to be offended). I think the poppy deserves proper respect for what and who it really stands for.

Yep and forcing the employees of UR (or any other organization) to wear them totally flys in the face of that.

shamalicious · Post by **shamalicious** » Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:53 pm

Surely it should be an individual's choice to wear a poppy? I'm not sure I agree with forcing people to wear it (or not wear it).

I'd also be of the opinion that putting it on sporting shirts is crass.

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