Fuel laundering
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Fuel laundering
Is there no record kept of who buys the agricultural diesel?
And if not , why not?
And if for some obscure reason it's not feasible to record this then they need to get rid of this scheme altogether.
Let the farmers produce receipts backed by bank statements for the last n years and add the relevant subsidy to their single farm payment.
I'm sick of this nonsense.
And if not , why not?
And if for some obscure reason it's not feasible to record this then they need to get rid of this scheme altogether.
Let the farmers produce receipts backed by bank statements for the last n years and add the relevant subsidy to their single farm payment.
I'm sick of this nonsense.
Re: Fuel laundering
There is a record kept only the authorities don't bother their arses checking it/take backhanders for ignoring it, but it has actually practically come to an end as new dye that can't be removed will stop it in April, at present you have to provide a valid VAT number to buy red stuff, think green on your side is the same.pythagoras wrote:Is there no record kept of who buys the agricultural diesel?
And if not , why not?
And if for some obscure reason it's not feasible to record this then they need to get rid of this scheme altogether.
Let the farmers produce receipts backed by bank statements for the last n years and add the relevant subsidy to their single farm payment.
I'm sick of this nonsense.
Anyway the money is in hauling heating oil south and clear diesel on the back load at present
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Re: Fuel laundering
Better than putting acid in my car's tank or producing barrels of toxic waste I suppose.Rooster wrote:There is a record kept only the authorities don't bother their arses checking it/take backhanders for ignoring it, but it has actually practically come to an end as new dye that can't be removed will stop it in April, at present you have to provide a valid VAT number to buy red stuff, think green on your side is the same.pythagoras wrote:Is there no record kept of who buys the agricultural diesel?
And if not , why not?
And if for some obscure reason it's not feasible to record this then they need to get rid of this scheme altogether.
Let the farmers produce receipts backed by bank statements for the last n years and add the relevant subsidy to their single farm payment.
I'm sick of this nonsense.
Anyway the money is in hauling heating oil south and clear diesel on the back load at present
You're right though, if they really wanted to clamp down on this they could.
A) they know who the suspects are (this is Ireland)
B) How many roads cross the border in Co. Armagh = how many webcams they need to buy
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Re: Fuel laundering
Py, as you say, they know
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Re: Fuel laundering
Russ
Rightly or wrongly I am biased against Co Louth.
I wouldn't dream of buying a used car with an LH reg.
If a chain of fuel outlets has its HQ in Louth I won't buy from them.
I'd be even more biased against Armagh except that by the time we see it, it belongs to Louth
Rightly or wrongly I am biased against Co Louth.
I wouldn't dream of buying a used car with an LH reg.
If a chain of fuel outlets has its HQ in Louth I won't buy from them.
I'd be even more biased against Armagh except that by the time we see it, it belongs to Louth
Re: Fuel laundering
Now you're dundalkin
There was never a guard nor a customs man, got his nose inside that transit van.
Re: Fuel laundering
Really??Rooster wrote:... at present you have to provide a valid VAT number to buy red stuff, ...
Re: Fuel laundering
The supplier has to say where it goes BR if requested and they do check up on some, but evidently not others, there is some allowance for heating oil up to 10,000 l a year I think but not the volumes the launderers use, above the domestic use allowance you need a VAT number.BR wrote:Really??Rooster wrote:... at present you have to provide a valid VAT number to buy red stuff, ...
Safest stuff to buy at pumps is through one of the lorry card pumps not the forecourt tanks.
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Re: Fuel laundering
Avoid the border areas at all costspythagoras wrote:Russ
Rightly or wrongly I am biased against Co Louth.
I wouldn't dream of buying a used car with an LH reg.
If a chain of fuel outlets has its HQ in Louth I won't buy from them.
I'd be even more biased against Armagh except that by the time we see it, it belongs to Louth
Re: Fuel laundering
It's one thing knowing who they; significantly different thing having the resources and legislation to stop it. I believe there are around 200 crossing points between NI and RoI. Say there are 200 webcams needed to cover these. Then what? It's not illegal to cross the borderpythagoras wrote:Better than putting acid in my car's tank or producing barrels of toxic waste I suppose.Rooster wrote:There is a record kept only the authorities don't bother their arses checking it/take backhanders for ignoring it, but it has actually practically come to an end as new dye that can't be removed will stop it in April, at present you have to provide a valid VAT number to buy red stuff, think green on your side is the same.pythagoras wrote:Is there no record kept of who buys the agricultural diesel?
And if not , why not?
And if for some obscure reason it's not feasible to record this then they need to get rid of this scheme altogether.
Let the farmers produce receipts backed by bank statements for the last n years and add the relevant subsidy to their single farm payment.
I'm sick of this nonsense.
Anyway the money is in hauling heating oil south and clear diesel on the back load at present
You're right though, if they really wanted to clamp down on this they could.
A) they know who the suspects are (this is Ireland)
B) How many roads cross the border in Co. Armagh = how many webcams they need to buy
Wooohooo!! Only donkey left on the board
Re: Fuel laundering
I think there are a whole lot more than that.eeyore wrote: I believe there are around 200 crossing points between NI and RoI.
Re: Fuel laundering
What about the tunnels? What? Shhhhhhhhh. ..BR wrote:I think there are a whole lot more than that.eeyore wrote: I believe there are around 200 crossing points between NI and RoI.
I have my own tv channel, what have you got?
Re: Fuel laundering
I would be quite confident in saying that very little of the laundered stuff crosses the border anyway, vast majority of cross border is legit fuel.
As for suggestions of not buying fuel round the border I would suggest that it is actually the safest place to buy it as one does not shyt on one's doorstep, most laundered stuff finishes up in Belfast
As for suggestions of not buying fuel round the border I would suggest that it is actually the safest place to buy it as one does not shyt on one's doorstep, most laundered stuff finishes up in Belfast
“That made me feel very special and underlined to me that Ulster is more than a team, it is a community and a rugby family"
Rory Best
Rory Best
Re: Fuel laundering
Aye they only sell the well laundered stuff down by Rooster.Rooster wrote: As for suggestions of not buying fuel round the border I would suggest that it is actually the safest place to buy it as one does not shyt on one's doorstep, most laundered stuff finishes up in Belfast
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Wouldn't bother with laundered stuff when I can buy legit stuff for less and claim vat back, clocks in about 80 pence a litre at present.BR wrote:Aye they only sell the well laundered stuff down by Rooster.Rooster wrote: As for suggestions of not buying fuel round the border I would suggest that it is actually the safest place to buy it as one does not shyt on one's doorstep, most laundered stuff finishes up in Belfast
“That made me feel very special and underlined to me that Ulster is more than a team, it is a community and a rugby family"
Rory Best
Rory Best