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I know he's been good but he certainly doesn't do the work of 5 men!rumncoke wrote:FNW last year was hitting rucks late at a rate of knots .
With one of two results being penalised for going off his feet or dangerous the first ended in a yellow card if repeated and the second either a yellow and on occasion red
Which meant Ulster either playing 10 men for 10 minutes minimum nearly every other game
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Just clarify for me Rum'n,are you suggesting Fat Nick was yellow carded in most games? That he got a red card occasionally?rumncoke wrote:FNW last year was hitting rucks late at a rate of knots .
With one of two results being penalised for going off his feet or dangerous the first ended in a yellow card if repeated and the second either a yellow and on occasion red
Which meant Ulster either playing 10 men for 10 minutes minimum nearly every other game
This year he seems more controlled in his rucking and if late refrains from coming involved
According to the UR stats, he got ONE yellow and no red cards last year.BaggyTrousers wrote:Just clarify for me Rum'n,are you suggesting Fat Nick was yellow carded in most games? That he got a red card occasionally?rumncoke wrote:FNW last year was hitting rucks late at a rate of knots .
With one of two results being penalised for going off his feet or dangerous the first ended in a yellow card if repeated and the second either a yellow and on occasion red
Which meant Ulster either playing 10 men for 10 minutes minimum nearly every other game
This year he seems more controlled in his rucking and if late refrains from coming involved
The correct answer, though his suspension meant he warranted a red (& he did).........but of course he only missed 10 minutes of the games he played. Hardly a record indicative of thuggery all season as some would have you believe.big mervyn wrote:According to the UR stats, he got ONE yellow and no red cards last year.BaggyTrousers wrote:Just clarify for me Rum'n,are you suggesting Fat Nick was yellow carded in most games? That he got a red card occasionally?rumncoke wrote:FNW last year was hitting rucks late at a rate of knots .
With one of two results being penalised for going off his feet or dangerous the first ended in a yellow card if repeated and the second either a yellow and on occasion red
Which meant Ulster either playing 10 men for 10 minutes minimum nearly every other game
This year he seems more controlled in his rucking and if late refrains from coming involved
and the one yellow he did get was for the same incident that was subsequently cited and resulted in his suspension.BaggyTrousers wrote:The correct answer, though his suspension meant he warranted a red (& he did).........but of course he only missed 10 minutes of the games he played. Hardly a record indicative of thuggery all season as some would have you believe.big mervyn wrote:According to the UR stats, he got ONE yellow and no red cards last year.BaggyTrousers wrote:Just clarify for me Rum'n,are you suggesting Fat Nick was yellow carded in most games? That he got a red card occasionally?rumncoke wrote:FNW last year was hitting rucks late at a rate of knots .
With one of two results being penalised for going off his feet or dangerous the first ended in a yellow card if repeated and the second either a yellow and on occasion red
Which meant Ulster either playing 10 men for 10 minutes minimum nearly every other game
This year he seems more controlled in his rucking and if late refrains from coming involved
when we're up, we're worldbaters as the Canucks say, we've learned to win "gnarly." Which we'll take. Marshall (L) is back to the form that got him capped, and at a position that suits him. PJ best 10 in Ireland by a mile currently, and McCall and AOC must continue to start, given their form is way above the vaunted front liners. Watch how they're ignored by Joe Schit. Let Chewy Payne et al warm benches on their return until good enough. Even DC shouldnt be a shoo in. I hope we've said goodbye to starts based on reputation. Form first please. The Kiss way?, then fair play. 
I'm of the view that he decided after his Pro12 player of the season award in 12/13 he had made it and took his eye off the ball. Resulting in the backside falling out of his game.Once a Knight wrote:I agree. But as you know, for me it's all about consistently seeking the fine margins and he, more than anyone, cost us a Pro12 last year.Cornerfleg wrote:Nick took last year off. I'm happy now that he doesn't need a video highlights reel he's still putting in a graft.... Very much so!
Ye see CIMAN, we are supporters, there is no middle ground when you are passionate about your team, only absolute highs or desolate lows. There ye are. My medication keeps me on a relatively even keel, but other less so.CIMANFOREVER wrote:Feck me, this site is Bi polar
A word re Lutton; seems to have learned scrummage all of a sudden. Confidence? Or as a result of getting his ears lowered below his head band?
I know exactly what you mean, but it takes a complete set of skills to achieve greatness along with a slice of luck and the right opportunities. Nick has a great skill set, but I always feel he lacks a bit of dog, bloodymindedness and hunger.Once a Knight wrote:I just don't take disappointment well. I work very hard with kids and when they dont perform I turn to the other guys who are giving out and say "Chr!st guys! Wise up! They're just kids. They have to make their own mistakes". Inside, I am livid that I haven't taught then better.
Nick, I get angry about. That guy could have been a serious AB 8. World Cup winner. He'll ply his trade for another two years and hang up his boots. In a lucid moment, he will look back and wonder "What if I'd taken it seriously and been committed?"
I hope he's got it in his head this year.
Snipe Watson wrote:Ye see CIMAN, we are supporters, there is no middle ground when you are passionate about your team, only absolute highs or desolate lows. There ye are. My medication keeps me on a relatively even keel, but other less so.CIMANFOREVER wrote:Feck me, this site is Bi polar
A word re Lutton; seems to have learned scrummage all of a sudden. Confidence? Or as a result of getting his ears lowered below his head band?
Lutton was ignored and disincentivised by a coach who has the man management skills of General Melchett.
The staff of Burger King could give you a differing view, but would state that they dealt with that recurring issue.Once a Knight wrote:He's never been hungry.Snipe Watson wrote:I know exactly what you mean, but it takes a complete set of skills to achieve greatness along with a slice of luck and the right opportunities. Nick has a great skill set, but I always feel he lacks a bit of dog, bloodymindedness and hunger.Once a Knight wrote:I just don't take disappointment well. I work very hard with kids and when they dont perform I turn to the other guys who are giving out and say "Chr!st guys! Wise up! They're just kids. They have to make their own mistakes". Inside, I am livid that I haven't taught then better.
Nick, I get angry about. That guy could have been a serious AB 8. World Cup winner. He'll ply his trade for another two years and hang up his boots. In a lucid moment, he will look back and wonder "What if I'd taken it seriously and been committed?"
I hope he's got it in his head this year.
That may well be the case, but here's the thing. What worked with Fez may not work with others. The greatest thing that any coach can do is identify what buttons to press to get the most out of each individual player. The worst thing, or one of them anyway, is to adopt a one size fits all approach that may work for some, while being counter-productive for others.CIMANFOREVER wrote:Snipe Watson wrote: Ye see CIMAN, we are supporters, there is no middle ground when you are passionate about your team, only absolute highs or desolate lows. There ye are. My medication keeps me on a relatively even keel, but other less so.
Lutton was ignored and disincentivised by a coach who has the man management skills of General Melchett.
If you're referring to Clarke, here's a funny thing. No less a GLU than Fez rates Clarke highly, and credits him with helping to get his career started. Says so in his book. Wonder what's went wrong?.......
