Benetton Rugby Vs Ulster 09/09/17 @ 17.05 BBC2NI

[pwrmoore]

IMHO we have five players that can potentially get us over the gain line from first phase Piutau, McCloskey, Deysel, Coetzee, Henderson and Reidy.

Need three of them on the pitch minimum to provide a platform, even against the weakest teams in the league.

5????

[big mervyn]

IMHO we have five players that can potentially get us over the gain line from first phase Piutau, McCloskey, Deysel, Coetzee, Henderson and Reidy.

Need three of them on the pitch minimum to provide a platform, even against the weakest teams in the league.

5????

It actually reads: "5 from first phase Piutau"

[rumncoke]

Two of those listed are backs normally remote from the breakdown ( remote being a person other than first receiver )

Three are back row players .

Momentum is created by the first receiver getting over the gain line which requires the receiver to be taking the ball at pace and not being in the position of getting ball and tackler at one and the same time, which results in a "Diack catch 22" either going quickly to ground or trying to stay upright to enable the forwards and support players the opportunity get behind the ball.

The first frequently is penalised for failure to release and the second results in the player being taken backwards due to double marking of first or second receiver and lack of supporting players.

Real momentum requires two gain line breakers and quick recycle after the first phase .

On friday night the first receiver frequently took the ball wide and ran back towards the breakdown to ensure a quick recycle because the scrum half didn't have to follow the ball across the field-- the ball was being brought back to him.

[Neill_M]

Diack out of Saturday's game. McCall, Coetzee and Piutau to undergo fitness tests etc

(Source - Newsletter)


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[Dave]

What happened Coetzee?

[BaggyTrousers]

I'd start Luke, Jacob and Tredders. We need our best possible xv against the Scarlets. Now they need game time because of their imposed rest ffs!

Meanwhile, Tipuric played for Ospreys, the Lionels turned out in decent numbers but the Patricks? Nah, too tired to play 2 months & some weeks later. This bench-warming & cheerleading can be both trying & tiresome.

[againstthehead]

I'd take a 1 point win.

[Dave]

I'd take a 1 point win.

That won't be necessary.

[Dave]

Marcell took a bang to the knee. Les says he's fine.

[EastTerraceUR]

Team

(1-8)Black, Herring, Ah You, Rea, O'Connor, Reidy, Henry, Deysel

(9-15)Cooney, Leali'ifano, Trimble, McCloskey, Cave, Bowe, Ludik

(16-23)Andrew, Warwick, Herbst, Treadwell, Ross, Shanahan, Marshall, Stockdale.


McCall - Rested (Dislocated Finger)
Diack - Injured (Hip)
Coetzee - Rested (Knee)
Piutau - Rested (Calf)

Unavailable - Merwe, Best, Kane, Browne, Henderson, Marshall, Gilroy, Payne

[BaggyTrousers]

But as I keep telling people FOLK is a füçkïñg liar.

You just wonder is Marcell an accident waiting to happen. I fear for him...... and Ulster.

Wonder if there is another Wannenberg or Deysel out there somewhere?

[Dave]

McCall popped a finger and Charlie tightened something.

I'd take no chances with Marcell or Charlie and give Rea a start or give him a half. Start Cave sub on Luke, to accommodate the need for returning players to get game time. Luke and Bowe on the bench. Bowe has had more game time than most. Then pick the best combos for Scarlets.

McCall
Rob
Herbst
AOC
Treadwell
Deysel
Chad
Rea/Reidy
Cooney
Christian
Stockdale
McCloskey
Cave
Trimble
Ludik

Something like that. If you disagree I'll fight you.

[Cornerfleg]

And all of a sudden... I fear the pack looks .... paper weight ...

[Cornerfleg]

Hopefully they'll go with Dave's idea...

[Dave]

Hopefully they'll go with Dave's idea...

Please God yes