Bart S wrote:BaggyTrousers wrote:Liz Fraser wrote:
Exactly what I said they couldn't stick their head out publically because they were afeared.
Exactly Liz, yella Paddybastards, entirely gutless, if they had all Stood Up for the Ulstermen what would the FIRFUC's have done? Sacked their entire national team? Killed Irish Rugby?
Yeah right, I hate the fu'cking Lionels, but at times they have stood up against their union and every time they got most of what they wanted and none of them was sacked.
A sad day when you realise your countrymen are a self-serving bagofshite without a hint of moral fortitude, and morally inferior to a Lionel? FFFS, a bunch of selfish Warren Gatland.
Two young lads betrayed by their teammates. Pathetic. Irish team spirit my hole.
Surely any protest activity should have started with their own team mates at Ulster. If the Ulster players did nothing then i don’t see why the ireland players would. Henderson is well known to be one if Olding’s best mates all the way back to school days, yet he has not done anything publicly to protest against the verdict, so why would players who are less close do anything?
I am not having a go at Hendy here in any way, just pointing out that if any visible protest was to occur, ulster would have been the logical place. It is controlled by the irfu and had they actually refused to play matches it would have been a visible protest.
At the end if the day i am sure there have been instances where colleagues feel an employee has been trated badly by their employer, but few people would risk their own job for that.
I am sure pj and olding know that and would not expect others to put their careers at risk for them, particulalry when those outside of ulster are probably less aware of “facts” than some here appear to be. No doubt they will have recived private messages of support from some players, although probably not via whatsapp.
Actually Bart my work colleagues and myself have taken action on a number of occasions when our fellow workers stood wrongly sacked or accused.
One of whom I had never even met before.
On each occasion we have helped win the day for them and that's my frustration that a unified action no matter what form it takes makes one hell of a difference.
In each case it wasn't about consequences for us it was about showing empathy and doing the right thing.
Rums right when he referenced the players and particularly Rorys attendance at the trial.
That was the exact point where feelings were gauged and the minerals shrunk and that was the point for others to stand strong and get behind Rory and the attendees action.
Instead they let him dangle and he was picked off easily.
Baggy is also right when he referenced the Lionels.
They went on strike over image rights before the 2003 RWC and were completely pilloried by all including Woodward.
Were there mass sackings?
Of course not.
The players won the day, their squad were unified through seige mentality, the world cup was won and all strikes forgotten.
Could you imagine our lot having a red carpet stand off Johnson style.
Red carpet?
White flag more like.
Just think on this lyric I'll once again quote from the great Slade the Leveller,
"Come with me my little innocents theres a game that we can play,
See how much we can change the world while you look the other way"