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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by solidarity » Sun Aug 18, 2019 8:14 pm

Bayern wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 5:45 pm
LEINSTER U19 46 ULSTER U19 24
CONNACHT U18 36 ULSTER U18 CLUBS 14
LEINSTER U18 SCHOOLS 34 ULSTER U18 SCHOOLS 13
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Knows nothing » Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:25 pm

Ulster clubs were leading Connacht at one stage then Co conceded two tries when capt was yc'd. Spoilt the game as a contest.

U18 was a v young side. Loads of u18 playing in u19's. Not sure why that is a good idea. In previous years all the best 18's play u18. Leinster deserved it although a few Ulster players kept making uncharacteristic errors which helped Leinster.

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by therealspratt » Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:07 am

Knows nothing wrote:
Sun Aug 18, 2019 11:25 pm
Ulster clubs were leading Connacht at one stage then Co conceded two tries when capt was yc'd. Spoilt the game as a contest.

U18 was a v young side. Loads of u18 playing in u19's. Not sure why that is a good idea. In previous years all the best 18's play u18. Leinster deserved it although a few Ulster players kept making uncharacteristic errors which helped Leinster.
Well there were quite a number of u19s missing for some reason and a handful of u18s with the 7s, Jude Postlethwaite, Conor McKee, Charlie Worth and Ben Noxham.

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Bayern » Mon Aug 19, 2019 2:00 pm

highlights of leinster schools versus ulster schools: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9G384RXvbB0

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Bayern » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:06 am

Ulster U19s team to play Munster, Wednesday 21st August, 12.30pm at Bangor GS:

(15-9): Matthew Corr (Ballymena Academy), Luke Pollock (Dalriada School), Jack Harte (Friends’ School, Lisburn), Greg Hutley (Down High School), Stuart Wightman (Belfast Metropolitan College), Reece Malone (Friends’ School, Lisburn), Conor McKee (Sullivan Upper School);

(1-8): George Saunderson (Sullivan Upper School), Tom Stewart (Belfast Royal Academy), Patrick McAlpine (Campbell College, Belfast), Matthew Sands (City of Armagh RFC), Harry Sheridan (Sullivan Upper School), Will Hopes (Regent House School), Reuben Crothers (Capt) (Wallace High School), Jack Gamble (Ballyclare High School).

Replacements: Joel Dundas (Wallace High School), Adam Hanna (Banbridge Academy), Scott Hutton (Belfast HS), David Stinson (Enniskillen Royal GS), Peter Heasley (Wallace High School), Dara Gaskin (Campbell College, Belfast), Matthew Hamilton (Malone RFC), Callum Davidson (Methodist College), Justin White (Enniskillen Royal GS).

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Bayern » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:06 am

Ulster U18 "Clubs" team to play Munster, Wednesday 21st August, 1.00pm at University of Limerick:

(15-9): Thomas Leitch (Sullivan Upper), Stuart Brown (Enniskillen RGS), Cameron McCaughey (Down HS), Tyler McNeill (Coleraine GS), Zac Moraghan (Sullivan Upper), Thomas McDevitt (Instonians RFC), Adam Scott (RS Dungannon);

(1-8): Owen Warren (Ballyclare HS), Ben McCullough (Rainey OB RFC), Joe Charles (Down HS), James McNabney (Cambridge House), John Glasgow (City of Armagh RFC), Sam Glasgow (City of Armagh RFC), Jack Milton (Capt) (Ballyclare RFC), James Crummie (City of Armagh RFC).

Replacements: Robbie Grant (Bangor GS), Jamie Allen (RS Dungannon), Philip Nicholl (City of Armagh RFC), Lewis Beattie (Ballymena RFC), Jack Alexander (Ballymena RFC), Sebastian Hastings (Rainey Endowed), Adam Sheriff (Virginia RFC), Ben Goodfellow (Cambridge House), Elliot Donaldson (Belfast Royal Academy), Josh Kyle (Omagh Academy).

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Bayern » Wed Aug 21, 2019 8:07 am

Danske Bank Ulster U18 Schools’ team to play Munster, Wednesday 21st August, 3.00pm at University of Limerick:

(15-9): Luke Graham (Methodist College), Rory Telfer (Coleraine GS), Ben Carson (Wallace HS), Jude Postlethwaite (RBAI), Jamie McNeight (Wallace HS), Ross McKay (Ballymena Academy), James Wright (Ballymena Academy);

(1-8): Harry Andrews (Ballymena Academy), James McCormick (Capt) (Dalriada School), Joseph Mawhinney (Ballymena Academy), Paddy Browne (Ballymena Academy), Charlie Irvine (Wallace HS), Ryan Finlay (RS Armagh), Callum Smyton (Enniskillen Royal GS), Adam Lamont (Ballymena Academy).

Replacements: Andrew Donald (Ballymena Academy), David Braden (Omagh Academy), Jack Boal (Campbell College), Peter O’Hagan (Methodist College), Paddy Eames (RBAI), Josh King (RS Armagh), Josh Drain (Ballymena Academy), Tim Bailie (Ballymena Academy), Jordan Millar (Ballymena Academy), Ethan Bryce (Methodist College).

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by rumncoke » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:07 am

Watched the video of the Ulster schools game --- extremely poor game but really not surprised -- the players haven't played a game since March -- the 5 metre defence was unorganised and to some extent half hearted .

Nothing could be assessed either collectively or individually from the game other than 5 metres from the line the team with the ball has at school level a great advantage.
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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Bayern » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:44 am

rumncoke wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:07 am
Watched the video of the Ulster schools game --- extremely poor game but really not surprised -- the players haven't played a game since March -- the 5 metre defence was unorganised and to some extent half hearted .

Nothing could be assessed either collectively or individually from the game other than 5 metres from the line the team with the ball has at school level a great advantage.

They played and defeated Italy u18 about two weeks ago: https://thefrontrowunion.com/2019/08/ul ... nst-italy/

Also I believe they played a warm up game against the u18 "clubs" side

I'd suggest you are grasping at straws to excuse a poor result against leinster.

They play munster today, we shall see how they get on then.

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Knows nothing » Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:59 am

Bayern wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 10:44 am
rumncoke wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:07 am
Watched the video of the Ulster schools game --- extremely poor game but really not surprised -- the players haven't played a game since March -- the 5 metre defence was unorganised and to some extent half hearted .

Nothing could be assessed either collectively or individually from the game other than 5 metres from the line the team with the ball has at school level a great advantage.

They played and defeated Italy u18 about two weeks ago: https://thefrontrowunion.com/2019/08/ul ... nst-italy/

Also I believe they played a warm up game against the u18 "clubs" side

I'd suggest you are grasping at straws to excuse a poor result against leinster.

They play munster today, we shall see how they get on then.
There was no game against clubs side. Just Italy u18. By contrast Leinster played Italy, Clubs and away to Northampton so you might have a point Rum.

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Bayern » Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:05 am

Or Leinster have a more talented group, wouldn't be the first time that happened..

so if schools lose today? it's because they are still undercooked or will it be something else?

and if they win, of course that will only further underline that the only reason they lost to leinster was being undercooked. :roll: :lol:

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by rumncoke » Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:27 am

Two games in 4 months from a select of players spread over 9 counties . Leinster most of the players are within or close to the Pale .

The school coaching is also superior because players are coached to develop as players rather than developed to suit the needs of their school 15

But the fact remains it was basically a one strategy game by both sides — plAy to get with in the 5 metre zone - and play crash ball against a disorganised and half hearted defence
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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Bayern » Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:33 am

rumncoke wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:27 am
Two games in 4 months from a select of players spread over 9 counties . Leinster most of the players are within or close to the Pale .
isn't almost half the ulster schools squad from the same school?

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Knows nothing » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:22 pm

Bayern wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2019 11:05 am
Or Leinster have a more talented group, wouldn't be the first time that happened..

so if schools lose today? it's because they are still undercooked or will it be something else?

and if they win, of course that will only further underline that the only reason they lost to leinster was being undercooked. :roll: :lol:
No need to be silly now. Obviously Leinster were the better team, that goes without saying. The other reason is because more than half of the squad are a year young.

Better centre partnership today.

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Re: Any word on the Academy?

Post by Knows nothing » Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:23 pm

BTW Leinster schools 10 was v good.

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