Looks like they willbig mervyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:16 pmIt would be ludicrous if Saints went through as a best runner up after those 2 games.
Leinster 19/20
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If Sorries manage a bp win the marra, they could be back in Dublin for another hammering.Jackie Brown wrote: ↑Sat Jan 18, 2020 3:54 pmLooks like they willbig mervyn wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 8:16 pmIt would be ludicrous if Saints went through as a best runner up after those 2 games.
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Heads up for later in, Leinster bringing Ulster's purple ronnie shirt back from the death for the Cheetahs game. 2:30pm KO Freesports.
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Leins losing 10 7 to Ospreys at halftime in Wales. Frawley having a nightmare. Similar shambolic performance to Ulster's effort last week.
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Finished 13 21 to Leinster. Dire game. 21 penalties and the increasingly common and absurd referee lecture to professional props.
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Not a classic in some wind and rain. Leinster have won last 20 competitive games, last team to beat them was Salarycens last season.
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Leinster 55-19 Glasgow FT. Only 3 tries for the visitors so no BP.
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That young lad, Baird, looks pretty handy. Mind you how did an Irish guy get a name like Ryan Baird. Sounds like he should be playing bagpipes.
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He sounds like one of ours. From a purely place-kicking perspective, what foot does he kick with?
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Re: Leinster 19/20
Who cares? Unless he drop kick from the half way line.big mervyn wrote: ↑Sat Feb 29, 2020 9:31 pmHe sounds like one of ours. From a purely place-kicking perspective, what foot does he kick with?
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I see Petrie was in the press saying that we should stop looking up to Leinster not long ago, and I see where he's coming from, but at the same time they're a pretty awesome outfit and if we were going to emulate anyone I would suggest that we start there.. Is there any side in the NH which has the same consistently high level of quality in their academy pathways? You have to take your hat off..
Baird was absolutely amazing - even if he hadn't scored any tries he would have been MOTM, he looks quite lanky and skinny but he's incredibly powerful, he made a load of carries in traffic where you often see lanky guys driven backwards by a couple of tacklers and made yards, and in open country I don't think I've seen a lock move as fast for a long time.. I'm sure Ross Molony was watching going "FFS not another one..."
I'd say they'll definitely be under pressure from Nucifora to move some players on - Sexton probably doesn't have many years left, Ross Byrne is a good player to step up, but could well be eclipsed by Harry, who looks superb.. I can see Frawley being edged out - also not helped by the pile-up of quality players coming through in the centre (also true of O'Loughlin) with the 3 O'Briens coming through and Hawkshaw and Turner in the academy.. I'd take Frawley in a heartbeat for us - absolutely class player
Back row their depth chart is ridiculous, with everyone fit:
Ruddock - Conan - Leavy
Deegan - Doris - van der Flier
so that's 2 full international back rows before Connors or Penny get a look-in, and Martin Moloney in the academy was a stand-out for last years GS winning U-20s.. So at least 2 full internationals plus 2 potential internationals are guaranteed not to start any big games for Leinster - I can see them coming under pressure to move one of Deegan or Doris, and potentially one of Penny or Connors. And would take any of them in a heartbeat as well.
Baird was absolutely amazing - even if he hadn't scored any tries he would have been MOTM, he looks quite lanky and skinny but he's incredibly powerful, he made a load of carries in traffic where you often see lanky guys driven backwards by a couple of tacklers and made yards, and in open country I don't think I've seen a lock move as fast for a long time.. I'm sure Ross Molony was watching going "FFS not another one..."
I'd say they'll definitely be under pressure from Nucifora to move some players on - Sexton probably doesn't have many years left, Ross Byrne is a good player to step up, but could well be eclipsed by Harry, who looks superb.. I can see Frawley being edged out - also not helped by the pile-up of quality players coming through in the centre (also true of O'Loughlin) with the 3 O'Briens coming through and Hawkshaw and Turner in the academy.. I'd take Frawley in a heartbeat for us - absolutely class player
Back row their depth chart is ridiculous, with everyone fit:
Ruddock - Conan - Leavy
Deegan - Doris - van der Flier
so that's 2 full international back rows before Connors or Penny get a look-in, and Martin Moloney in the academy was a stand-out for last years GS winning U-20s.. So at least 2 full internationals plus 2 potential internationals are guaranteed not to start any big games for Leinster - I can see them coming under pressure to move one of Deegan or Doris, and potentially one of Penny or Connors. And would take any of them in a heartbeat as well.
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Leinster have cancelled Season Ticket sales for 2020/21 see their https://www.leinsterrugby.ie/leinster-r ... n-tickets/
I suspect that the other provinces could well follow suit.
I suspect that the other provinces could well follow suit.
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Leinster confirmed new contracts and departures during the week www.leinsterrugby.ie/leinster-rugby-con ... ts-202021/
Departures
Jack Aungier - Connacht
Bryan Byrne - Bristol
Barry Daly - retiring
Oisin Dowling - Connacht
Gavin Mullin - released
Roman Salanoa - Munster
Joe Tomane - Dragons
Promoted from Academy
Ryan Baird (2nd Row/Blind-Side)
Harry Byrne (Fly-Half)
Jack Dunne (2nd Row)
Tommy O'Brien (Centre/Wing)
Dan Sheehan (Hooker)
New International Contract
James Ryan
New Senior Leinster Contract
Vakh Abdaladze
Michael Bent
Adam Byrne
Ed Byrne
Ross Byrne
Will Connors
Sean Cronin
Peter Dooley
Caelan Doris
Scott Fardy
Jordan Larmour
Dan Leavy
James Lowe
Ross Molony
Josh Murphy
Rory O'Loughlin
Rowan Osborne
Andrew Porter
Rhys Ruddock
Devin Toner
James Tracy
Josh vd Flier
Short Term Deals to see out Current Season
Fergus McFadden
Rob Kearney
Departures
Jack Aungier - Connacht
Bryan Byrne - Bristol
Barry Daly - retiring
Oisin Dowling - Connacht
Gavin Mullin - released
Roman Salanoa - Munster
Joe Tomane - Dragons
Promoted from Academy
Ryan Baird (2nd Row/Blind-Side)
Harry Byrne (Fly-Half)
Jack Dunne (2nd Row)
Tommy O'Brien (Centre/Wing)
Dan Sheehan (Hooker)
New International Contract
James Ryan
New Senior Leinster Contract
Vakh Abdaladze
Michael Bent
Adam Byrne
Ed Byrne
Ross Byrne
Will Connors
Sean Cronin
Peter Dooley
Caelan Doris
Scott Fardy
Jordan Larmour
Dan Leavy
James Lowe
Ross Molony
Josh Murphy
Rory O'Loughlin
Rowan Osborne
Andrew Porter
Rhys Ruddock
Devin Toner
James Tracy
Josh vd Flier
Short Term Deals to see out Current Season
Fergus McFadden
Rob Kearney
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LH Prop(4)
Cian Healy(32/Belvedere/Clontarf) - central contract until 2021
Ed Byrne(26/Clongowes/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Peter Dooley(26/Birr RFC/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2020
Michael Milne(21/Birr RFC-Roscrea/UCD) - Academy Yr 3
TH Prop(5)
Michael Bent(34) - signed contract in 2020
Tadhg Furlong(27/New Ross RFC/Clontarf) - central contract until 2021
Andrew Porter(24/St. Andrews/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Vakh Abdaladze(24/Coolmine RFC/Clontarf) - signed contract in 2020
Tom Clarkson(20/Blackrock/DUFC) - Academy Yr 2
Hooker(4)
Sean Cronin(34) - signed contract in 2020
James Tracy(29/Newbridge/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Ronan Kelleher(22/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2019
Dan Sheehan(21/Clongowes/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2020
Lock(8)
Scott Fardy(36) - signed 1 yr contract in 2020
Devin Toner(34Castleknock/Lansdowne) - signed 1 yr contract in 2020
Ross Molony(26/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
James Ryan(24/St. Michaels/UCD)- signed 3 yr central contract in 2020
Jack Dunne(21/St. Michaels/DUFC) - signed contract in 2020
Ryan Baird(21/St. Michaels/DUFC) - signed contract in 2020
Charlie Ryan(21/Blackrock/UCD) - Academy Yr 2
Brian Deeny(20/Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 2
Backrow(10)
Rhys Ruddock(29/Exile/St. Marys) - signed contract in 2020
Jack Conan(28/St. Gerards/Old Belvedere) - signed contract in 2019
Josh Van Der Flier(27/Wesley/UCD) - signed 2 yr contract in 2020
Dan Leavy(26/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Josh Murphy(25/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Will Connors(24/Clongowes/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Max Deegan(23/St. Michaels/:ansdowne) - signed contract in 2019
Caelan Doris(24/Blackrock/DUFC) - signed contract in 2020
Scott Penny(20/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2019
Martin Moloney(20/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere) - Academy Yr 2
Sean O'Brien(20/Blackrock/UCD) - Academy Yr 1
Alex Soroka(19/Belvedere/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 1
Scrumhalf(5)
Jamie Gibson Park(28) - signed contract in 2019
Luke McGrath(27/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2019
Rowan Osborne(23/Clongowes/DUFC) - signed contract in 2020
Hugh O'Sullivan(22/Belvedere/Clontarf) - signed contract in 2019
Paddy Patterson(22/Blackrock/UCD) - Academy Yr 3
Outhalf(5)
Jonathan Sexton(35/St. Marys/St. Marys) - central contract until 2021
Ross Byrne(25/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Ciaran Frawley(22/Skerries RFC/UCD) - signed contract in 2019
Harry Byrne(21/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2020
David Hawkshaw(21/Belvedere) - Academy Yr 3
Centre(7)
Robbie Henshaw(27) - central contact until 2022
Rory O'Loughlin(26/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Garry Ringrose(25/Blackrock/UCD) - signed 2 yr central contract in 2020
Conor O'Brien(24/Mullingar RFC/Clontarf) - signed contract in 2019
Jimmy O'Brien(23/Newbridge/UCD) - signed contract in 2019
Tommy O'Brien(22/Blackrock/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Liam Turner(21/Blackrock/DUFC) - Academy Yr 2
Back Three(9)
Dave Kearney(31/Clongowes/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2019
James Lowe(28) - signed 3yr contract in 2020
Adam Byrne(26/Naas RFC/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Cian Kelleher(26/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2019
Hugo Keenan(24/Blackrock/UCD) - signed contract in 2019
Jordan Larmour(23/St. Andrews/St. Marys) - signed contract in 2020
Michael Silvester(22/Clongowes/DUFC) - Academy Yr 3
Aaron O'Sullivan(20/Exile/Blackrock) - Academy Yr 3
Andrew Smith(20/St. Michaels/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 1
Note - academy not announced officially yet.
Cian Healy(32/Belvedere/Clontarf) - central contract until 2021
Ed Byrne(26/Clongowes/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Peter Dooley(26/Birr RFC/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2020
Michael Milne(21/Birr RFC-Roscrea/UCD) - Academy Yr 3
TH Prop(5)
Michael Bent(34) - signed contract in 2020
Tadhg Furlong(27/New Ross RFC/Clontarf) - central contract until 2021
Andrew Porter(24/St. Andrews/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Vakh Abdaladze(24/Coolmine RFC/Clontarf) - signed contract in 2020
Tom Clarkson(20/Blackrock/DUFC) - Academy Yr 2
Hooker(4)
Sean Cronin(34) - signed contract in 2020
James Tracy(29/Newbridge/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Ronan Kelleher(22/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2019
Dan Sheehan(21/Clongowes/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2020
Lock(8)
Scott Fardy(36) - signed 1 yr contract in 2020
Devin Toner(34Castleknock/Lansdowne) - signed 1 yr contract in 2020
Ross Molony(26/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
James Ryan(24/St. Michaels/UCD)- signed 3 yr central contract in 2020
Jack Dunne(21/St. Michaels/DUFC) - signed contract in 2020
Ryan Baird(21/St. Michaels/DUFC) - signed contract in 2020
Charlie Ryan(21/Blackrock/UCD) - Academy Yr 2
Brian Deeny(20/Wexford RFC/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 2
Backrow(10)
Rhys Ruddock(29/Exile/St. Marys) - signed contract in 2020
Jack Conan(28/St. Gerards/Old Belvedere) - signed contract in 2019
Josh Van Der Flier(27/Wesley/UCD) - signed 2 yr contract in 2020
Dan Leavy(26/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Josh Murphy(25/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Will Connors(24/Clongowes/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Max Deegan(23/St. Michaels/:ansdowne) - signed contract in 2019
Caelan Doris(24/Blackrock/DUFC) - signed contract in 2020
Scott Penny(20/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2019
Martin Moloney(20/Athy RFC/Old Belvedere) - Academy Yr 2
Sean O'Brien(20/Blackrock/UCD) - Academy Yr 1
Alex Soroka(19/Belvedere/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 1
Scrumhalf(5)
Jamie Gibson Park(28) - signed contract in 2019
Luke McGrath(27/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2019
Rowan Osborne(23/Clongowes/DUFC) - signed contract in 2020
Hugh O'Sullivan(22/Belvedere/Clontarf) - signed contract in 2019
Paddy Patterson(22/Blackrock/UCD) - Academy Yr 3
Outhalf(5)
Jonathan Sexton(35/St. Marys/St. Marys) - central contract until 2021
Ross Byrne(25/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Ciaran Frawley(22/Skerries RFC/UCD) - signed contract in 2019
Harry Byrne(21/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2020
David Hawkshaw(21/Belvedere) - Academy Yr 3
Centre(7)
Robbie Henshaw(27) - central contact until 2022
Rory O'Loughlin(26/St. Michaels/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Garry Ringrose(25/Blackrock/UCD) - signed 2 yr central contract in 2020
Conor O'Brien(24/Mullingar RFC/Clontarf) - signed contract in 2019
Jimmy O'Brien(23/Newbridge/UCD) - signed contract in 2019
Tommy O'Brien(22/Blackrock/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Liam Turner(21/Blackrock/DUFC) - Academy Yr 2
Back Three(9)
Dave Kearney(31/Clongowes/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2019
James Lowe(28) - signed 3yr contract in 2020
Adam Byrne(26/Naas RFC/UCD) - signed contract in 2020
Cian Kelleher(26/St. Michaels/Lansdowne) - signed contract in 2019
Hugo Keenan(24/Blackrock/UCD) - signed contract in 2019
Jordan Larmour(23/St. Andrews/St. Marys) - signed contract in 2020
Michael Silvester(22/Clongowes/DUFC) - Academy Yr 3
Aaron O'Sullivan(20/Exile/Blackrock) - Academy Yr 3
Andrew Smith(20/St. Michaels/Clontarf) - Academy Yr 1
Note - academy not announced officially yet.
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5 for out half, and only 9 for back three?
What would the thinking be behind that?
What would the thinking be behind that?