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Lots of press about Irish front row and strength in depth but it looks like unless your either from Leinster or under notice from the Dublin centric IRFU influenced Irish press core you are not worthy.
Big Licence is a case in point but out half is another case were the distance between the fragile Sexton and the next in line is so apparently vast yet PJ who is performing week in week out for LI is almost never mentioned no even in regret. For me another interesting not to be spoken issue lies in the second row as I believe it’s significant without the grunt from Henderson the Irish pack suffers and the front row is the easy target for blame while in my view the not long ago media hyped so called world class Ryans weakness in the scrum is ignored.
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Skidoo 100% Agree👏👏👏👏👍
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rumncoke wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 12:45 am You can't rank New Zealand sides but you can rank their players -- with regards to the players i haven't watched them enough but there are a couple who are definitely in the top two in their position in the world at this time and basically the players have to ranked on the basis of the current world alternatives.

With virtual no real N/S games for a year in the S/H it is hard to assess any world ranks for any team and the six nations is lobsided at the moment depending on home advantage.
Yeah, not too many stand-out ABs at the moment - and lots of positions to be nailed down. Lots of decent players around but not too many superstars around. Ardie Savea is getting close to something special. I highly rate Mo-unga. But lots of 50/50 calls in the backrown, centres and back 3 and hard to pick a settled side. Tuivesa-sheck came across from league and is meant to be off the chart but of course you never know how those league converts settle. Leadership group isn't as strong as in the past but then gain there are some tough comparisions to be made.
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skiboo wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:53 am Lots of press about Irish front row and strength in depth but it looks like unless your either from Leinster or under notice from the Dublin centric IRFU influenced Irish press core you are not worthy.
Big Licence is a case in point but out half is another case were the distance between the fragile Sexton and the next in line is so apparently vast yet PJ who is performing week in week out for LI is almost never mentioned no even in regret. For me another interesting not to be spoken issue lies in the second row as I believe it’s significant without the grunt from Henderson the Irish pack suffers and the front row is the easy target for blame while in my view the not long ago media hyped so called world class Ryans weakness in the scrum is ignored.
Hit the nail on the head there Skiboo. Ryan is and always has been underpowered in the scrum. His deficiencies in that regard are covered up when he is paired with Hendo who is a genuine powerhouse second row. But you can't place all the blame on Ryan - Beirne is even more underpowered and that's simply because he isn't an international standard 2nd row. He is a hybrid 4/6 who plays quite well in both positions (better at 6 for my money) but isn't specialist in either. Don't get me wrong, Beirne's all round game is fantastic and I'd be trying hard to fit him into the team, but when you pick him you know the scrum and maul are going to suffer.

The experiment failed but Schmidt saw this weakness in the Ireland team when he brought in Kleyn who is more like a Henderson build second row. A lot of the Leinster guys are calling for their new batch of second rows to get more caps but I don't think any of them look likely to develop into the big powerful second row we need.
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Mighty Joe Young Mccarthy is the cause celeb.

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jean valjean wrote: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:05 pm Mighty Joe Young Mccarthy is the cause celeb.

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They have managed to get Boris Johnson out of Number 10 today. They still can't remove Johnny Sexton. And Johnson to the best of my knowledge has never had a HIA.
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Some might say Boris never had a brain to injure

Boris has done what Boris was elected to do but in doing so he made too many enemies in the london socialist elite and media who have been seeking revenge since electorate decided to leave the EU --ie even before T May was PM.

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rumncoke wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:42 am Some might say Boris never had a brain to injure

Boris has done what Boris was elected to do but in doing so he made too many enemies in the london socialist elite and media who have been seeking revenge since electorate decided to leave the EU --ie even before T May was PM.

The EU a Trading Association pretending to be a State but which exists to protect the vested interest of each State, at the expense of population of each State by the elimination of free trade established by standards to protect the vested interests.
Don't remember him being elected to kill 170k people, lie, cheat, have 69s in his office, drive inflation through the roof, break virtually promise in his manifesto, etc. etc.
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rumncoke wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2022 11:42 am Some might say Boris never had a brain to injure

Boris has done what Boris was elected to do but in doing so he made too many enemies in the london socialist elite and media who have been seeking revenge since electorate decided to leave the EU --ie even before T May was PM.

The EU a Trading Association pretending to be a State but which exists to protect the vested interest of each State, at the expense of population of each State by the elimination of free trade established by standards to protect the vested interests.
Rum'n - get your head out of the Daily Mail.Their rugby coverage is crap as well.

Lots of die hard Brexiteers wanted him out as they realised he was a liability and showed no humility. The fact he was still trying to form a govt last night shows how deluded he had become and he still doesn't get it The "Remainer elite" may not have liked him but he was the architect of his own downfall.
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EU's fault again, I see. When will those bastids ever learn.
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Don't we have a politics thread for these ramblings?
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the Rambles was that not a cartoon strip -- which of course brings us back to Ireland v New Zealand a series worthy of a cartoon strip.

did he or did he not have a head injury and how long will he last this week ?
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Presumably they'll keep him on so long as the score says that there's a realistic chance of Ireland winning. I give him fifteen minutes.
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Won't be setting my alarm for the answer to "how many points is Mack Hansen worth", anything with an uninjured Ulster contingent is a plus.

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