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HammerTime wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:32 am Kingspan is too small for a typical cocert. Take away a stand (behind the stage) and add in the pitch and you’d still not get 20,000. You never see outdoor gigs with 20k … 30k minimum usually. Costs a fortune to put on an outdoor show and Kingspan wouldn’t be viable. More short sightedness from both UR and the IFA. We could have shared 25k/30k stadium in the titanic quarter and could have split the loot 50:50 from concerts, motocross, corporate etc. could have lowered ticket prices by 20% which would have brought more in and still left plenty of scope for future crowd growth. No point turning, it’s done now and we still have a reasonable stadium all for ourselves and don’t pay any rent (unlike Leinster) But what a missed opportunity. There’s nothing like a great stadium on match day pretty close to a city centre.
RDS (18,000 capacity for rugby) similar size regularly hosts outdoor concerts, heading to see Springsteen and the E Street Band there in May.
Frampton had 16,000 at the purpose built Titanic Slipway.
Belsonic in Ormeau Park is 15,000.
They must be viable.

I think the issue would be to compete with somewhere like Ormeau Park on price.
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Does anyone know whether we are going for a fully synthetic pitch or a hybrid option?

Dragons have a hybrid, Glasgow is fully artificial.

Other than what it's made from what's the difference? Maintenance? Playability? etc
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UlsterNo9 wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:10 am
HammerTime wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:32 am Kingspan is too small for a typical cocert. Take away a stand (behind the stage) and add in the pitch and you’d still not get 20,000. You never see outdoor gigs with 20k … 30k minimum usually. Costs a fortune to put on an outdoor show and Kingspan wouldn’t be viable. More short sightedness from both UR and the IFA. We could have shared 25k/30k stadium in the titanic quarter and could have split the loot 50:50 from concerts, motocross, corporate etc. could have lowered ticket prices by 20% which would have brought more in and still left plenty of scope for future crowd growth. No point turning, it’s done now and we still have a reasonable stadium all for ourselves and don’t pay any rent (unlike Leinster) But what a missed opportunity. There’s nothing like a great stadium on match day pretty close to a city centre.
RDS (18,000 capacity for rugby) similar size regularly hosts outdoor concerts, heading to see Springsteen and the E Street Band there in May.
Frampton had 16,000 at the purpose built Titanic Slipway.
Belsonic in Ormeau Park is 15,000.
They must be viable.

I think the issue would be to compete with somewhere like Ormeau Park on price.
RDS take away all temporary stands (3 of them) which opens it up the arena massively. Think it's 25-30k. Titanic slipway was free of charge. Belsonic is council run and without its backing wouldn't be viable. Some gigs there only sell 4-5k and the council then are in panic mode giving away free tickets to everyone so there's a crowd. A private promoter wouldn't touch it.
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Can you imagine the bar queues at a gig at Kingspan?
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Does this imaginary stadium have a roof?
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jean valjean wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:30 pm Can you imagine the bar queues at a gig at Kingspan? Image
Depends who’s playing.

Most of today’s weirdo youth wouldn’t even lick a wine gum.
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And maybe all the better for it?I
Certainly an improvement on some of the loudmouth " see how many pints I can hold" brigade observed at both Kingspan and away matches.
Some of them maybe even on here,............?
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Bobbievee wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:49 am And maybe all the better for it?I
Certainly an improvement on some of the loudmouth " see how many pints I can hold" brigade observed at both Kingspan and away matches.
Some of them maybe even on here,............?
Of course we are.
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Bobbievee wrote:And maybe all the better for it?I
Certainly an improvement on some of the loudmouth " see how many pints I can hold" brigade observed at both Kingspan and away matches.
Some of them maybe even on here,............?
I hate the nobs who put pints on the ground in standing areas, who then preceed to cry when someone inadvertently kicks one over.
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Dave wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:40 am
Bobbievee wrote:And maybe all the better for it?I
Certainly an improvement on some of the loudmouth " see how many pints I can hold" brigade observed at both Kingspan and away matches.
Some of them maybe even on here,............?
I hate the nobs who put pints on the ground in standing areas, who then preceed to cry when someone inadvertently kicks one over.
Yes, pints deserve more love. Especially at the price they charge these days.
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justinr73 wrote:
Dave wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:40 am
Bobbievee wrote:And maybe all the better for it?I
Certainly an improvement on some of the loudmouth " see how many pints I can hold" brigade observed at both Kingspan and away matches.
Some of them maybe even on here,............?
I hate the nobs who put pints on the ground in standing areas, who then preceed to cry when someone inadvertently kicks one over.
Yes, pints deserve more love. Especially at the price they charge these days.
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waggonsroll wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:51 pm
justinr73 wrote:
Dave wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 11:40 am
Bobbievee wrote:And maybe all the better for it?I
Certainly an improvement on some of the loudmouth " see how many pints I can hold" brigade observed at both Kingspan and away matches.
Some of them maybe even on here,............?
I hate the nobs who put pints on the ground in standing areas, who then preceed to cry when someone inadvertently kicks one over.
Yes, pints deserve more love. Especially at the price they charge these days.
There's not too many six handed guys on the terrace Image

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I’ve seen a few with six fingers.
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Bobbievee wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 12:49 am And maybe all the better for it?I
Certainly an improvement on some of the loudmouth " see how many pints I can hold" brigade observed at both Kingspan and away matches.
Some of them maybe even on here,............?
You say that as if it’s a bad thing 😁
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Jersey over hoodie pint welding goons out
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HammerTime wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:07 pm
UlsterNo9 wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 11:10 am
HammerTime wrote: Sun Feb 26, 2023 9:32 am Kingspan is too small for a typical cocert. Take away a stand (behind the stage) and add in the pitch and you’d still not get 20,000. You never see outdoor gigs with 20k … 30k minimum usually. Costs a fortune to put on an outdoor show and Kingspan wouldn’t be viable. More short sightedness from both UR and the IFA. We could have shared 25k/30k stadium in the titanic quarter and could have split the loot 50:50 from concerts, motocross, corporate etc. could have lowered ticket prices by 20% which would have brought more in and still left plenty of scope for future crowd growth. No point turning, it’s done now and we still have a reasonable stadium all for ourselves and don’t pay any rent (unlike Leinster) But what a missed opportunity. There’s nothing like a great stadium on match day pretty close to a city centre.
RDS (18,000 capacity for rugby) similar size regularly hosts outdoor concerts, heading to see Springsteen and the E Street Band there in May.
Frampton had 16,000 at the purpose built Titanic Slipway.
Belsonic in Ormeau Park is 15,000.
They must be viable.

I think the issue would be to compete with somewhere like Ormeau Park on price.
RDS take away all temporary stands (3 of them) which opens it up the arena massively. Think it's 25-30k. Titanic slipway was free of charge. Belsonic is council run and without its backing wouldn't be viable. Some gigs there only sell 4-5k and the council then are in panic mode giving away free tickets to everyone so there's a crowd. A private promoter wouldn't touch it.
There are two temporary stands (the ones at each end) in the RDS, not three.
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