Contract Situation

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ljsulster wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:50 pm
So It Is wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:29 pm
Neill_M wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:13 pm Current contract situation - if you spot any errors or can fill in the gaps re the unknowns, please let me know :D

Expiring 2024

Eric O’Sullivan, James McCormick, Tom O’Toole, Marty Moore, Ben Griffin, Greg Jones, Matthew Rea, Reuben Crothers, Dave Shanahan, Michael McDonald, Billy Burns, James Hume, Luke Marshall, Ben Carson, Craig Newby

Expiring 2025

Dan McFarland, Jonny Bell, Roddy Grant, Andrew Warwick, Callum Reid, Rob Herring, John Andrew, Alan O’Connor, Iain Henderson, Nick Timoney, David McCann, Harry Sheridan, John Cooney, Conor McKee, Stewart Moore, Stuart McCloskey, Angus Curtis, Robert Baloucoune, Ethan McIlroy, Ben Moxham, Michael Lowry, Shea O’Brien, Aaron Sexton, Jacob Stockdale

Expiring 2026

Steven Kitshoff, Tom Stewart, Kieran Treadwell, Cormac Izuchukwu, Nathan Doak, Jake Flannery, Jude Postlewaite

Unknown Contract End

Cameron Doak, George Saunderson, James French, Scott Wilson, Charlie Irvine, Joe Hopes, Marcus Rea, Dave Ewers, Sean Reffell, Lorcan McLoughlin, James McNabney, James Humphreys, Will Addison, Rory Telfer, Dan Soper
Bolded are who I would bin ASAP.
Italics are lads I've never heard of, and therefore should be binned.

Ive left the young lads in, but jeez someone needs to show something soon.
You’d bin a 21 year old Irish u20 grandslam winning hooker when we have a 33 year old, an Irish camp member and the rubbish John Andrew as our only other options?
I still don't know who you are talking about tbf. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not an avid follower of youth rugby though.

I would add that if he is in fact the dog's knackers, why is he not be picked ahead of Andrews (who has his limits but has never let Ulster down)? Another selection howler from Dan?
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Think perhaps Addison's might be up...
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And Westies have been playing Aussie McDonald I understand, on loan from us? I assume paying his contract too?

I'd keep Shanahan TBF.
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So It Is wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:01 pm
ljsulster wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:50 pm
So It Is wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:29 pm
Neill_M wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 1:13 pm Current contract situation - if you spot any errors or can fill in the gaps re the unknowns, please let me know :D

Expiring 2024

Eric O’Sullivan, James McCormick, Tom O’Toole, Marty Moore, Ben Griffin, Greg Jones, Matthew Rea, Reuben Crothers, Dave Shanahan, Michael McDonald, Billy Burns, James Hume, Luke Marshall, Ben Carson, Craig Newby

Expiring 2025

Dan McFarland, Jonny Bell, Roddy Grant, Andrew Warwick, Callum Reid, Rob Herring, John Andrew, Alan O’Connor, Iain Henderson, Nick Timoney, David McCann, Harry Sheridan, John Cooney, Conor McKee, Stewart Moore, Stuart McCloskey, Angus Curtis, Robert Baloucoune, Ethan McIlroy, Ben Moxham, Michael Lowry, Shea O’Brien, Aaron Sexton, Jacob Stockdale

Expiring 2026

Steven Kitshoff, Tom Stewart, Kieran Treadwell, Cormac Izuchukwu, Nathan Doak, Jake Flannery, Jude Postlewaite

Unknown Contract End

Cameron Doak, George Saunderson, James French, Scott Wilson, Charlie Irvine, Joe Hopes, Marcus Rea, Dave Ewers, Sean Reffell, Lorcan McLoughlin, James McNabney, James Humphreys, Will Addison, Rory Telfer, Dan Soper
Bolded are who I would bin ASAP.
Italics are lads I've never heard of, and therefore should be binned.

Ive left the young lads in, but jeez someone needs to show something soon.
You’d bin a 21 year old Irish u20 grandslam winning hooker when we have a 33 year old, an Irish camp member and the rubbish John Andrew as our only other options?
I still don't know who you are talking about tbf. I'll be the first to admit that I'm not an avid follower of youth rugby though.

I would add that if he is in fact the dog's knackers, why is he not be picked ahead of Andrews (who has his limits but has never let Ulster down)? Another selection howler from Dan?
James McCormick- very impressive in last years u20s- currently out with a shoulder injury but should be back soon- will quickly get ahead of Andrew
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CIMANFOREVER wrote: Tue Jan 23, 2024 7:10 pm And Westies have been playing Aussie McDonald I understand, on loan from us? I assume paying his contract too?

I'd keep Shanahan TBF.
6 bench appearances and 1 start (Lyon away) so far. Don't know how the loan is working from a financial point of view.
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I imagine Shanahan is on a dirt cheap contract. There's no point binning him as you won't bring in anyone better who is happy to be third fiddle, and I am unaware of any more young 9s coming up to leapfrog him.

I wouldn't be giving AOC a new contract in 2025.

What's the deal with James Humphreys. Am I wrong or is he the only one from his academy year not to have made a senior team yet?
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Jackman has heard a Burns to Munster rumour, with Billy likely to leave come what may.
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justinr73 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:39 pm Jackman has heard a Burns to Munster rumour, with Billy likely to leave come what may.
Interesting rumour. Munster need a 10 and have been linked with a lot of players for next season.

IF he did go, do Ulster get one of the many Leinster 10s / another IQ'd / NIQ?
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Let’s hope for the third option Neill.

If Frawley is willing to fully buy in then he’s probably worth considering.
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justinr73 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:39 pm Jackman has heard a Burns to Munster rumour, with Billy likely to leave come what may.
Where did he say this?
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thecrouch wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:15 pm
justinr73 wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 1:39 pm Jackman has heard a Burns to Munster rumour, with Billy likely to leave come what may.
Where did he say this?
On today’s 42 podcast.

He’s right more often than not (on ‘transfers’).
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Only KOTH can confirm >seeya
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IIRC the 5 outhalves who have probably played most for Ulster in the past 25 years are :-

Davy Humph
Ian Humph
Niall O'connor
Paddy Jackson
Billy Burns

Based on their performances for Ulster, how would you rank them from 1(best) to 5?
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Well let’s see, Jackman does get transfer rumours wrong a fair bit. I’m a fan of Billy, but this could only happen in the context of an IRFU-orchestrated shuffle you’d imagine, in order to get the front-line tens from an international pov getting regular starts at the provinces
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