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Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Sun May 05, 2019 6:37 pm
by Lurgan Lad
dublane wrote:Are we signing a new iq 10 to replace Mcphillips? Someone down the pecking order at another province with potential hopefully. Any ides who might fit the Bill?
If you are talking about Johnston I would guess he would be 3rd choice OH for us, would it really help him coming up to us?

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:08 am
by Dharper
Connacht have an non IQ to announce, not sure whether that deal is done yet. If CL came would that stop Faddes deal?

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 10:57 am
by UlsterNo9
Dharper wrote:Connacht have an non IQ to announce, not sure whether that deal is done yet. If CL came would that stop Faddes deal?
The Westies were always exempt from NIQ rule if I remember correctly.

M Coetzee, S Carter, Faddes and C Lealiifano would be four NIQ.

The NIQ rule has been tampered with so much since Nucifora (look at Munster) arrived I'm lost. At present I have 4 NIQs inclusive of a project player as being okay. Faddes would be 32 by the time he'd qualify for Ireland under current ruling so I doubt that would be signed off as a project player. However there has been no real clarity given since the world rugby changed residency ruling from three years to five.

Munster have 6 NIQs on the books at present Rhys Marshall, Jean Kleyn, Arno Botha, Chris Cloete, Albie Matthewson and Jacob Taute. I may be wrong but I think they started the year with 7 as Tyler Bleyendaal only became IQ at the start of the year.

Based on what Munster have I would like to think Nucifora would sign off on Lealiifano on top of the three we know of. My understanding being Carter and Faddes is a done deal.

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 12:02 pm
by Neill_M
Re Munster and their NIQ players:

Taute joining Tigers, Kleyn and Marshall become IQ’d in Sept and Nov respectively. So next season they will have Botha, Cloete and Mathewson (until end of RWC).

Fair to say the NIQ rules are flexible.

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 3:35 pm
by UlsterNo9
Neill_M wrote:Re Munster and their NIQ players:

Taute joining Tigers, Kleyn and Marshall become IQ’d in Sept and Nov respectively. So next season they will have Botha, Cloete and Mathewson (until end of RWC).

Fair to say the NIQ rules are flexible.
Thanks Neill, I had hoped you'd answer, knowledgeable as always :thumleft: . After checking on Belyendaal he became IQ on Jan 2018, therefore I was wrong. Decided to do the research in full, Munster have 3 NIQs who can never play for Ireland and a further 5 who could potentially play for Ireland.

Current Status

Munster NIQs
Botha (2 caps, SA)
Matthewson (5 caps, NZ)
Taute (3 caps, SA) Departing end of the season

Munster NIQs potential Projects
Cloete - Qualifies 2020 Contracted until 2022
Kleyn - Qualifies Sept 2019
Marshall - Qualifies Nov 2019

Munster Academy NIQs
Keynan Knox Qualifies Jan 2021
Matt More Qualifies Jan 2021

Where that leaves Ulster on the Carter, Coetzee, Faddes and potential of Lealiifano all things being fair I would like to think resigning Lealiifano wouldn't be a problem. With these things before though life is not always fair.

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 4:37 pm
by jean valjean
UlsterNo9 wrote:
Neill_M wrote:Re Munster and their NIQ players:

Taute joining Tigers, Kleyn and Marshall become IQ’d in Sept and Nov respectively. So next season they will have Botha, Cloete and Mathewson (until end of RWC).

Fair to say the NIQ rules are flexible.
Thanks Neill, I had hoped you'd answer, knowledgeable as always :thumleft: . After checking on Belyendaal he became IQ on Jan 2018, therefore I was wrong. Decided to do the research in full, Munster have 3 NIQs who can never play for Ireland and a further 5 who could potentially play for Ireland.

Current Status

Munster NIQs
Botha (2 caps, SA)
Matthewson (5 caps, NZ)
Taute (3 caps, SA) Departing end of the season

Munster NIQs potential Projects
Cloete - Qualifies 2020 Contracted until 2022
Kleyn - Qualifies Sept 2019
Marshall - Qualifies Nov 2019

Munster Academy NIQs
Keynan Knox Qualifies Jan 2021
Matt More Qualifies Jan 2021

Where that leaves Ulster on the Carter, Coetzee, Faddes and potential of Lealiifano all things being fair I would like to think resigning Lealiifano wouldn't be a problem. With these things before though life is not always fair.
Leli is still younger than when fardy signed for d4 and let's not forget he got an extension this year, so age should not be a factor. Personally would like another bruiser in the back row but happy to give the youngsters a chance next year.

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Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 5:24 pm
by Lurgan Lad
Could we actually afford Lealiifano I wonder? Would be interested to know if our new CEO has made any savings since he started?

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 7:39 pm
by Dave
Not with this season's attendance figures, no.

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:13 pm
by launish116
Dave wrote:Not with this season's attendance figures, no.
Well we will have an extra home quarter to add to the accounts. Aswell as an away quarter and semi.

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:15 pm
by Bart S
Dave wrote:Not with this season's attendance figures, no.
Difficult to know what the position is, with players being released/having been released and what conteacts other guys are on. Attendances i imagine are just a part of it. I doubt the average was that much higher when ulster had 3 world cup winners (Afoa, Ruan and Johann) plus a. super Rugby winner (Pedrie) on the books.

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:16 pm
by Bart S
Anyway, i cannot see Lele coming back........unless a certain poster on here in particular mentions it!!

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:32 pm
by Rooster
Lele has said he would love to come back, whether we have asked him or not is a different matter and whether we have funds for it is yet another matter

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Mon May 06, 2019 9:48 pm
by nonplussed
Don't need him

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Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 8:03 am
by Cracker
Bring back Ruan as stand in out half if he is coming home.

Re: TRANSFER RUMOURS!!

Posted: Tue May 07, 2019 8:53 am
by Cap'n Grumpy
Cracker wrote:Bring back Ruan as stand in out half if he is coming home.
Even if he was only the stand-in out-half, he would still be the stand out out-half!