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Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 2:59 pm
by Rooster
BR wrote:bazzaj wrote:Cheers mervyn and bagster but how do I get both and surely you can travel only under one Snipe?
You are probably entitled to both (you say you have a UK one and I assume you were born in NI/RoI).
You can simply show whichever one you want when the need arises. Where you require a visa/waiver/paperwork to enter a country, it is wise to continue to use the same one throughout your stay (and perhaps subsequent visits). The US, for example, aren't dying about the concept of someone having multiple passports.
UK consular facilities are probably more widespread. But the EU embassies often have reciprocal arrangements, which should go some way, to narrow the gap. And I suspect that even without a current passport, someone who is entitled to UK citizenship could expect consular assistance from the British embassy in the event of an emergency.
If you are in problems and you live here but are abroad on an Irish passport you can still access help from British Consul.
Both are a help as they will have easier to your records if you lose one and have just the option of Irish or British help.
Travelling on 2 can lead to problems of interrogation when you return, when they don't realise you ever left or reckon you left 2 years ago and had no trace in between, so if you leave Belfast or Dublin on a passport return on the same one, I know from experience
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:04 pm
by Rooster
Cockatrice wrote:I have had two for a while now… in fact I was able to use one to fly into somewhere and the other to fly out thereby proving that I had never left that country by producing the other one…
A very common use in the Middle East even by embassy staff, it helps a lot if you are stopped by ragheads bearing guns or knives if you are found to be Irish you tend to have a higher survival rate.
There are numerous British embassy staff around the world who travel on Irish passports.
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:49 pm
by mikerob
There may be a bit of a wait for an Irish passport at the moment... the Irish embassy in London reported they had received a million requests for passport application forms.
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 5:14 pm
by bazzaj
Crivens!
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 6:36 pm
by rumncoke
Cockatrice stunt is not advisable in the USA or where a visa is necessary because it will appear you have over stayed and few Governments approve
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Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 7:01 pm
by Snipe Watson
BR wrote:bazzaj wrote:Cheers mervyn and bagster but how do I get both and surely you can travel only under one Snipe?
You are probably entitled to both (you say you have a UK one and I assume you were born in NI/RoI).
You can simply show whichever one you want when the need arises. Where you require a visa/waiver/paperwork to enter a country, it is wise to continue to use the same one throughout your stay (and perhaps subsequent visits). The US, for example, aren't dying about the concept of someone having multiple passports.
UK consular facilities are probably more widespread. But the EU embassies often have reciprocal arrangements, which should go some way, to narrow the gap. And I suspect that even without a current passport, someone who is entitled to UK citizenship could expect consular assistance from the British embassy in the event of an emergency.
Just make sure you use the same one on both legs of your journey. It's there to be used.
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:17 pm
by Russ
mikerob wrote:There may be a bit of a wait for an Irish passport at the moment... the Irish embassy in London reported they had received a million requests for passport application forms.
They sent me a form and a letter
The letter said it may take a while so either do it now or wait
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:18 pm
by Russ
rumncoke wrote:Cockatrice stunt is not advisable in the USA or where a visa is necessary because it will appear you have over stayed and few Governments approve
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Ok ...
Surely any nonchube knows that if you are in a country on a visa you use the passport with the chuffing visa in it
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:34 pm
by Rooster
Russ wrote:rumncoke wrote:Cockatrice stunt is not advisable in the USA or where a visa is necessary because it will appear you have over stayed and few Governments approve
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Ok ...
Surely any nonchube knows that if you are in a country on a visa you use the passport with the chuffing visa in it
I thought Visa was for paying for your food and beer when you are in a foreign country.
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 9:38 pm
by Russ
Rooster wrote:Russ wrote:rumncoke wrote:Cockatrice stunt is not advisable in the USA or where a visa is necessary because it will appear you have over stayed and few Governments approve
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Ok ...
Surely any nonchube knows that if you are in a country on a visa you use the passport with the chuffing visa in it
I thought Visa was for paying for your food and beer when you are in a foreign country.
Aye that's what i gonched about
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:12 pm
by Cockatrice
Russ wrote:rumncoke wrote:Cockatrice stunt is not advisable in the USA or where a visa is necessary because it will appear you have over stayed and few Governments approve
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Ok ...
Surely any nonchube knows that if you are in a country on a visa you use the passport with the chuffing visa in it
Is it possible to visit a country without having a visa?
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:14 pm
by Russ
Cockatrice wrote:Russ wrote:rumncoke wrote:Cockatrice stunt is not advisable in the USA or where a visa is necessary because it will appear you have over stayed and few Governments approve
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Ok ...
Surely any nonchube knows that if you are in a country on a visa you use the passport with the chuffing visa in it
Is it possible to visit a country without having a visa?
Depends on the agreements we sign following non brexit
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:02 am
by BaggyTrousers
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 7:08 am
by BaggyTrousers
mikerob wrote:There may be a bit of a wait for an Irish passport at the moment... the Irish embassy in London reported they had received a million requests for passport application forms.
A nice wee financial boost for Edna & a widening of the diaspora.
I have a Scottish friend in Spain, heading towards 70, about to retire & no wish ti gae hame, he is feverishly contacting family to see if anyone knows a Paddy in the family he may have forgotten. His hatred of the English, already well developed, has stiffened like a pornstars lanyard.
Re: Irish Passport.
Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2016 8:58 am
by pwrmoore
Cockatrice wrote:Russ wrote:rumncoke wrote:Cockatrice stunt is not advisable in the USA or where a visa is necessary because it will appear you have over stayed and few Governments approve
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Ok ...
Surely any nonchube knows that if you are in a country on a visa you use the passport with the chuffing visa in it
Is it possible to visit a country without having a visa?
Yes.
Travel within the EU does not require a visa for EU citizens. Though citizens of non-EU countries may require a visa depending on their national agreements.
UK and Irish Citizens (amongst many others) visiting the USA for a short business or pleasure trip can avail of the Visa Waiver programme. This gives you entry to the USA but it is not a visa. Similarly Canada will stamp your passport but you do not require a visa to visit. Generally throughout the first world Visas are only required for long term stays for citizens of other first world countries.
Visas generally require you to apply in advance of travel through the embassy of the country you wish to visit and can take some time to process.
