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Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 12:20 pm
by muscles
There is no corporation tax relief for a non-trading asset, I believe, but not a tax professional.

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:01 pm
by Big-al
Well, then it was pure stupidly or greed, or both!!

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 1:48 pm
by TheBoat
Ulster and the IRFU are one and the same. Kinda like if a Tesco Metro loses money but is sustained by the Tesco Extra stores, or online sales. Companies have more profitable areas of their business. In rugby the money is at international level. It subsidises the club/provincial game. Do Leinster even make money?

Ulster will always be at a disadvantage in the IRFU system due to different vat laws and player tax benefits. Maybe the IRFU should take that into account to level the playing field.

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Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:44 pm
by jean valjean
Columbo wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:And yet UR buy up residential properties for 1/2m and leave empty Image
This is certainly a strange one and I have no idea what the plan is there
Have the irfu not been buying up properties behind the low end of the aviva when they become available? Just following the leader.

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:47 pm
by muscles
Columbo, another great post. IRFU will not let the Branch become insolvent but the key is what cost-cutting will they insist on & what will that mean for Ulster in the short term? Management’s job is to mitigate & manage both internal & external risks. It doesn’t seem that they did this at all well. Will anyone be held responsible? One hopes IRFU will make changes at the top including in the Management Committee, replacement(s) to improve the culture & introduce better financial management. They certainly won’t waste their own time micro managing the Branch. Only overt messages so far are with regard to players leaving & giving more responsibility to Bryn who presumably bears some responsibility. Does IRFU see a cost-cutting move in consolidating two roles? Not sure that would resolve leadership issue.

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:11 pm
by CIMANFOREVER
:scratch: So are we a profit centre or cost centre then?... :duck:

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:20 pm
by muscles
A loss centre 😉

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2024 9:44 pm
by jean valjean
muscles wrote:A loss centre Image
Is that not munster this week?

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 1:04 am
by justinr73
Only if he plays on Saturday.

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:36 pm
by Big-al
I see Munster are due to host a select All blacks XV at thomond park this November.

This season they’ve played a friendly vs South Africa ‘A’ and Harlequins, and now they booking fixtures for next season.

How come, given Ulsters financial struggles, are Ulster rugby not hosting these exhibition matches?

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:18 pm
by Neill_M
Big-al wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 2:36 pm I see Munster are due to host a select All blacks XV at thomond park this November.

This season they’ve played a friendly vs South Africa ‘A’ and Harlequins, and now they booking fixtures for next season.

How come, given Ulsters financial struggles, are Ulster rugby not hosting these exhibition matches?
Did see this asked on Twitter. Have Ulster ever asked about these?

If so such a game would need to make money re covering the match fees from the visiting union and therefore you would need a guaranteed sell out etc. On top of that Ravenhill ONLY holds 18,000 approx v 26,000 at Thomond Park and 45,000 at PUC in Cork where Munster hosted both South Africa A and the Crusaders.

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:55 pm
by allezlesverres
Munster are the defending champions so are a worthy scalp for the travelling team to test themselves against. Ulster are just ulster.

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:57 pm
by justinr73
We’ll be grand when Casement is finished.

May have to play the match under GAA rules to ensure a full house though.

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:00 pm
by Bobbievee
justinr73 wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2024 3:57 pm We’ll be grand when Casement is finished.

May have to play the match under GAA rules to ensure a full house though.
:D :D still not confident we would win though!

Re: Ulster's finances

Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2024 11:17 pm
by jean valjean
How much financially would ulster rugby benefit from hosting a game at the new casement?