Football/Rugby Stadium in East Belfast

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no aaron I am not giving up on anything but as I understand it football and rugby are played & watched by both sides of the community and both Glentoran and Ulster do not pick on grounds of religion.

Rather simplistic I know but none the less factual and for the record it was not me that muted the idea of both clubs sharing a ground in East Belfast.
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Cockatrice wrote:no aaron I am not giving up on anything but as I understand it football and rugby are played & watched by both sides of the community and both Glentoran and Ulster do not pick on grounds of religion.

Rather simplistic I know but none the less factual and for the record it was not me that muted the idea of both clubs sharing a ground in East Belfast.
Sorry, I should never have posted anything.. have come in late, a bit drunk :drunken: and misunderstood the point of your post.

That said, I am interested to know - what did you want to achieve by posting the question?
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The reason that I asked the question in the first instance is that one of the parties that I referred to seemingly wanted to move on just such a proposal.

Yet why is it dead in the water ??
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CT possibly because the posts aredifferent as are the markings on the pitch if one game is played on Friday night and a another on the Saturday then there is little time for the ground staff to make the changes necessary also a rugby match on Friday could leave the groung in a terrible condition for the footballers on a Saturday

It sounds good in theory but harder to achieve in practice and then there are the difficulties associated with ownership of the ground etc

Anyone associated with Belfast Harlequins can tell you it was hard enough to reach agreement between two clubs playing the same sports never mind two different sports and professional teams. one affiliated to IRFU and the other IFA

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bogboy wrote:
It sounds good in theory but harder to achieve in practice and then there are the difficulties associated with ownership of the ground etc
There are lots of examples of ground shares: LI/Reading at Madejski, Wasps/Wycombe at Causeway Stadium, Ospreys/Swansea City at the Liberty, Saracens/Watford at Vicarage Road, Glasgow/Partick at Firhill...

Sure co-ordination and planning is needed but it is hardly something that has never been done before...
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BB- your answer bares an uncanny indeed word for word likeness to that given by someone else. Spooky or what.
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Never said it hadn't been done

But there are alot of imponderables

YM sharing pitches at an Amateur level is not the same as professional level

At this time with Ravenhill Ulster Rugby don't have to make a committment to a shared venue

Necessity is the mother of such commitments
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OK as a further thought on the subject

Let me pose the big silly questions

How would such a proposal benefit Ulster Rugby ?

How would it benefit the IRFU?

How would the building of a shared Stadium be financed ?

When considering your answers remember Ravenhill is owned by the IRFU and is for the Ulster Branch of IRFU it is not just the venue for Ulster Rugby
thus every Club and School that is affilated to the Ulster Branch has a vested interest in Ravenhill.
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CT which party wanted to go ahead? Glens or us?
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aarons wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:Out of interest how many people would have supported a joint stadium in East Belfast between Ulster and Glentoran? at a guess say up 15,000-20,000 seater.
so we're giving up on the idea of a cross-community stadium completely?
Would you behave yourself aarons. :stir:

I would have gone for that. :cheers: :afro:
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i would say 15k is too small, offering little more scale than Ravenhill. I'd say a 20k stadium is a min, and if it's that size the design should be such that it can be scaled up fairly easily within 10 years..
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I see nobody has answer the big sillys

What benefit would it be to IRFU ?

What benefit would it be to the ULSTER BRANCH ?

If you come up with a positive answer I'll be most surprised

Note I not saying Ulster Rugby could not take advantage of a 20K seater Stadium but share one? Finance the building? share the running costs? why?
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GerryO' wrote:Would you behave yourself aarons. :stir:
I've already apologised for my comments on this thread..

but everything on the other thread is fair comment.
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aarons wrote:
GerryO' wrote:Would you behave yourself aarons. :stir:
I've already apologised for my comments on this thread..

but everything on the other thread is fair comment.
I had posted before I read your apology :oops: and we have already agreed on the other thread; so happy days:D
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