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Re: New Coach

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:32 pm
by Tender
What, even more Boojums?

Re: New Coach

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:43 pm
by pwrmoore
ColinM wrote:Soon we'll have sufficient Mexicans plying their trade here that they'll want them looked after a bit better.

Who coaches Leinster A?

Re: New Coach

Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:22 pm
by scrum5
I see the Ospreys have been copying Ulster Rugby.....In their global search to find a replacement for Steve Tandy, they have appointed Allan Clarke

Re: New Coach

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:44 pm
by Cockatrice
Silverstu wrote:Maybe what is taking soloing is they are cloning Gibbs, his duplicate is still in the vat.
Our chances of getting a good coach might be more to do with the IRFU pushing for one to reverse the rot that has set in here. Its a shame Gibbs has to leave as the team is starting to perform again. I think Gibbs sets the sort of template -a no nonsense ex forward coach with a good sense of the overall game. Wonder if they could bring Jeremy Davidson back? {I wonder if he'd want to come back!]
He said no when they last asked him...

Re: New Coach

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 3:47 pm
by Cockatrice
What coach in his right mind would want to coach somewhere where he has little or no say in who he signs... wouldn’t be surprised if they try to get a 10 here before the announcement of a coach that way he will have to take what he has...

Still not sure how it is supposed to work with the IRFU deciding who our next 10 is and not the coach..

Re: New Coach

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:19 pm
by Rooster
Cockatrice wrote:
Silverstu wrote:Maybe what is taking soloing is they are cloning Gibbs, his duplicate is still in the vat.
Our chances of getting a good coach might be more to do with the IRFU pushing for one to reverse the rot that has set in here. Its a shame Gibbs has to leave as the team is starting to perform again. I think Gibbs sets the sort of template -a no nonsense ex forward coach with a good sense of the overall game. Wonder if they could bring Jeremy Davidson back? {I wonder if he'd want to come back!]
He said no when they last asked him...
JD won't come back here, end of story.

Re: New Coach

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:02 pm
by Snipe Watson
Rooster wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:
Silverstu wrote:Maybe what is taking soloing is they are cloning Gibbs, his duplicate is still in the vat.
Our chances of getting a good coach might be more to do with the IRFU pushing for one to reverse the rot that has set in here. Its a shame Gibbs has to leave as the team is starting to perform again. I think Gibbs sets the sort of template -a no nonsense ex forward coach with a good sense of the overall game. Wonder if they could bring Jeremy Davidson back? {I wonder if he'd want to come back!]
He said no when they last asked him...
JD won't come back here, end of story.
We don't need a coach with any baggage, we need a completely new face.
I wonder is the Ulster job viewed as a poisoned chalice? All this negative press is, D4 interference and a seemingly dysfunctional organisation.
My position has always been that a coach will see a failing team, like ours, as a challenge. Maybe we're not worth the agro.

Re: New Coach

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:19 pm
by BaggyTrousers
Snipe Watson wrote:
Rooster wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:
Silverstu wrote:Maybe what is taking soloing is they are cloning Gibbs, his duplicate is still in the vat.
Our chances of getting a good coach might be more to do with the IRFU pushing for one to reverse the rot that has set in here. Its a shame Gibbs has to leave as the team is starting to perform again. I think Gibbs sets the sort of template -a no nonsense ex forward coach with a good sense of the overall game. Wonder if they could bring Jeremy Davidson back? {I wonder if he'd want to come back!]
He said no when they last asked him...
JD won't come back here, end of story.
We don't need a coach with any baggage, we need a completely new face.
I wonder is the Ulster job viewed as a poisoned chalice? All this negative press is, D4 interference and a seemingly dysfunctional organisation.
My position has always been that a coach will see a failing team, like ours, as a challenge. Maybe we're not worth the agro.

Reminds me of when Kevin "I'd love it" Keegan was manager at Newcastle. He told the players he was bringing in a few new faces. "Can I have one boss?" asked Peter Beardsley. :duck: :duck: :duck:

Re: New Coach

Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:43 pm
by Snipe Watson
BaggyTrousers wrote:
Snipe Watson wrote:
Rooster wrote:
Cockatrice wrote:
Silverstu wrote:Maybe what is taking soloing is they are cloning Gibbs, his duplicate is still in the vat.
Our chances of getting a good coach might be more to do with the IRFU pushing for one to reverse the rot that has set in here. Its a shame Gibbs has to leave as the team is starting to perform again. I think Gibbs sets the sort of template -a no nonsense ex forward coach with a good sense of the overall game. Wonder if they could bring Jeremy Davidson back? {I wonder if he'd want to come back!]
He said no when they last asked him...
JD won't come back here, end of story.
We don't need a coach with any baggage, we need a completely new face.
I wonder is the Ulster job viewed as a poisoned chalice? All this negative press is, D4 interference and a seemingly dysfunctional organisation.
My position has always been that a coach will see a failing team, like ours, as a challenge. Maybe we're not worth the agro.

Reminds me of when Kevin "I'd love it" Keegan was manager at Newcastle. He told the players he was bringing in a few new faces. "Can I have one boss?" asked Peter Beardsley. :duck: :duck: :duck:
Harsh...

Re: New Coach

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:52 am
by Crusoe
Nice to see Bernard Jackman supply his job application and covering letter through RTE.

Re: New Coach

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:11 am
by TinPig
A wee bit harsh Crusoe!!

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/042 ... to-ulster/
Fair play to Jackman he’s standing up for Ulster when the overwhelming trend is to drive the boot in.
He did great things at Grenoble (before the money ran out) and don’t forget he snapped up Chris Farrell while Ulster dozed over his contract.
He has his work cut out with the Dragons for sure but let’s give him the respect when he’s giving it to us. We won’t be getting him as coach but we could end up with worse.

Re: New Coach

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:59 am
by justinr73
He could have added that we’ve lost the same number of games as Munster and won 4 out of 6 in Europe.

Re: New Coach

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:22 am
by BaggyTrousers
justinr73 wrote:He could have added that we’ve lost the same number of games as Munster and won 4 out of 6 in Europe.

Ulster define Paradox Lionel, when you look at the figures it doesn’t appear that much worse than decent teams, yet we all know that it has been a horrible season, appalling defeats, no shows against decent teams, yet plenty of TBPs thrown in, games thrown away, particularly home to Embra which cost the expected playoff place, the threat which still exists of the Parker Pen........ and we haven’t even touched on off-field nightmares.

Re: New Coach

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:47 am
by justinr73
Well indeed but I think the positive to all this is that there are clear signs that we're circling the wagons, with the likes of Cooney and Stockcube sniping back plus three solid performances on the bounce out there where it matters.

For a season that, until very recently, couldn't end quickly enough......

Re: New Coach

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:22 am
by rumncoke
Ulster have had a horrible season because of several on field and off field factors, some have existed for several seasons.

1 -- the lack of an experienced back row with similar standard players in depth,
2-- The lack of any effective ball carriers in the front five, especially in wet weather, the result is the only effective means out of defence is to kick away possession.
3-- A backline devoid of its star players ( PJ-SO-AT-TB -JP - LL-CG - LM ) some unavailable all season, some for several weeks due to injury
4 -- Academy players lacking the physical capability to play PRO rugby at the moment ie Under 21 the promise is there but it might be destroyed by injury or destruction of confidence .

Then a DoR trying to modify an approach to the game without recognising that the game is different to rugby league and roles are not interchangeable and a coaching team new to each other and the players .
Then the head coach announced he was leaving 1/2 through the season stability behind the players has been totally lacking all season.

In to this mix add D4 interference and their failure to recognise need, a CEO who lacks the trust of fans, and I would now possibly add players , to what effect the coaching situation reflects on the action or inaction of the CEO, is anybodies guess !!

But the way the Provincial Management is currently viewed by most and the disquiet and uncertainty which must exist among the players definitely would fail to attract too many to the POST of DOR and Head Coach of Ulster .

THe fact remains in order to turn what BoD sees as "a basket case" change has to start at the top desk, because any coach requires the knowledge that he can have confidence in his employer (CEO).

Do the conditions exist at this time to provide that assurance. ?