Re: Team for the Defeat at Scaaaaaaaaaaalets
Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2018 11:16 pm
They should put most of the squad on performance related pay. They’d get a rebate from Deysel and Ah Feck.
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Said it at the time and going to keep saying it but Deysel was an awful signing. Compete knee jerk reaction.TopPoster wrote:They should put most of the squad on performance related pay. They’d get a rebate from Deysel and Ah Feck.
When things get stretched (and that was most of the game tonight) when we may expect a but if heads up rugby, the players return to playing the old systems. Hence after a phase or 2, and no breakthrough we kick the ball to them.Bart S wrote:BR wrote:Yes.Gerald the Mole wrote:Are we still blaming Kiss
That attack (I use the term loosley) had Kiss written all over it.
Is he still giving the half time team talks as well?
BR wrote:When things get stretched (and that was most of the game tonight) when we may expect a but if heads up rugby, the players return to playing the old systems. Hence after a phase or 2, and no breakthrough we kick the ball to them.Bart S wrote:BR wrote:Yes.Gerald the Mole wrote:Are we still blaming Kiss
That attack (I use the term loosley) had Kiss written all over it.
Is he still giving the half time team talks as well?
For the love of God, can someone explain to me why Cooney would take the ball from the back of a perfectly secure maul and box kick, other than that is what Kiss had him drilled to do?
There's always a chance the opposition will misfield it. Let's face it that has been our 2nd most effective tactic for the last 3 years.kingofthehill wrote:BR wrote:When things get stretched (and that was most of the game tonight) when we may expect a but if heads up rugby, the players return to playing the old systems. Hence after a phase or 2, and no breakthrough we kick the ball to them.Bart S wrote:BR wrote:Yes.Gerald the Mole wrote:Are we still blaming Kiss
That attack (I use the term loosley) had Kiss written all over it.
Is he still giving the half time team talks as well?
For the love of God, can someone explain to me why Cooney would take the ball from the back of a perfectly secure maul and box kick, other than that is what Kiss had him drilled to do?
Love a box kick that can’t be contested.
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BR wrote:When things get stretched (and that was most of the game tonight) when we may expect a but if heads up rugby, the players return to playing the old systems. Hence after a phase or 2, and no breakthrough we kick the ball to them.Bart S wrote:BR wrote:Yes.Gerald the Mole wrote:Are we still blaming Kiss
That attack (I use the term loosley) had Kiss written all over it.
Is he still giving the half time team talks as well?
For the love of God, can someone explain to me why Cooney would take the ball from the back of a perfectly secure maul and box kick, other than that is what Kiss had him drilled to do?
King i agree, but what we can’t have is a situation like we had under McGlock/Anscombe where success/a trophy was our be all and end all, at the expense of development. We succeeded on the back of a 1-9 including 4 top class imports plus 2 IQ imports (Court and Tuohy). Best and Ferris were already well established and in fiarness to McGlock, he can take a lot of credit for Henry’s conversion to a very good 7. But immediately beyond that it was the likes Stevenson and Falloon, (albeit they would walk ino the team we have now.).kingofthehill wrote:Said it at the time and going to keep saying it but Deysel was an awful signing. Compete knee jerk reaction.TopPoster wrote:They should put most of the squad on performance related pay. They’d get a rebate from Deysel and Ah Feck.
3 NIQs have to be world class and have local lads coming through. According to some within the management, the game has gone global when it comes to bringing in players. Try telling Leinster that.
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BaggyTrousers wrote:Told you all a few weeks back that it would get worse before it got better. It did, mind you although I was only half watching due to a room celebrating a birthday, it seemed to be much better, right up until the disgraceful decision to disallow a brilliant try for Timoney. Snipe is right, it was pivotal.
When you get a kingsize boot in the plums like that, if you are playing well you can cope, when things are halfway down the toilet, less so. As such it was a huge turning point in the game.
It's like this, no Best, Hendy, Stockcube, Girrid, Piutau, Jackson, Olding you are in an area where you need a better squad than Ulster's to manage.
That Scarlets side was more than sprinkled with youngsters I think the back three were all 19 or something one playing his first ever game and the bench also had 19-20 years olds on it... yes they had one or two older heads but that was it... what they and other sides like Edinburgh do is play to a system allowing everyone to buy in and be comfortable with how they play however than might be whenever they have to step in... Ulster seem to have a dozen different tactics a year none of which are working.Bart S wrote:BaggyTrousers wrote:Told you all a few weeks back that it would get worse before it got better. It did, mind you although I was only half watching due to a room celebrating a birthday, it seemed to be much better, right up until the disgraceful decision to disallow a brilliant try for Timoney. Snipe is right, it was pivotal.
When you get a kingsize boot in the plums like that, if you are playing well you can cope, when things are halfway down the toilet, less so. As such it was a huge turning point in the game.
It's like this, no Best, Hendy, Stockcube, Girrid, Piutau, Jackson, Olding you are in an area where you need a better squad than Ulster's to manage.
Looking at the list Best is on the decline, Piutau is going, Payne may retire in a month, Jackson (who knows?) and Olding had shown a lot of talent but had not established himself as a starter).
What is also concerning is that whilst we were missing some players, that was a long long way from the Scaaarlets first team which tanked us and absolutely schooled us in the second half.