ruckover wrote:Warburton proved during the 6N that he can only perform well when he doesn't have the pressure of leadership. He should tour, but not as captain.
He's not in the top 6 backrows in the british isles
Stander
Vunipola
Tipuric
Falatau
PoM
Haskell
All are above him. I'm pretty sure at least one scot is as well
ruckover wrote:Warburton proved during the 6N that he can only perform well when he doesn't have the pressure of leadership. He should tour, but not as captain.
Aye well, Rickie, each to their own, but he's no Pete O'Mahony.
Aye well, Russ, each to their own but he's a damn sight better than Haskell, Toby and Fat Bill.
Fat Bill is one reason why NZ will kill this team, if selected, they would remove him from the play with the speed of their game as he flops hither thither and yon, befuddled by their pace and movement.
NEVER MOVE ON. Years on, I cannot ever watch Ireland with anything but indifference, I continue to wish for the imminent death of Donal Spring, the FIRFUC's executioner of Wee Paddy & Wee Stu, and I hate the FIRFUCs with undiminished passion.
ruckover wrote:Warburton proved during the 6N that he can only perform well when he doesn't have the pressure of leadership. He should tour, but not as captain.
He's not in the top 6 backrows in the british isles
Stander
Vunipola
Tipuric
Falatau
PoM
Haskell
All are above him. I'm pretty sure at least one scot is as well
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It's hardly fair to compare 7s, 6s and 8s. Nonetheless, how the fekkkk did Haskell get into yer list? I see him as a big thick lump who is filling in for England in the backrow until they have the wit to pick someone better. I'd take Tipuric and Warburton as opensides and leave Master James at home. Pity VDF has not been fit to make his case.
ruckover wrote:Warburton proved during the 6N that he can only perform well when he doesn't have the pressure of leadership. He should tour, but not as captain.
He's not in the top 6 backrows in the british isles
Stander
Vunipola
Tipuric
Falatau
PoM
Haskell
All are above him. I'm pretty sure at least one scot is as well
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It's hardly fair to compare 7s, 6s and 8s. Nonetheless, how the fekkkk did Haskell get into yer list? I see him as a big thick lump who is filling in for England in the backrow until they have the wit to pick someone better. I'd take Tipuric and Warburton as opensides and leave Master James at home. Pity VDF has not been fit to make his case.
ruckover wrote:Warburton proved during the 6N that he can only perform well when he doesn't have the pressure of leadership. He should tour, but not as captain.
He's not in the top 6 backrows in the british isles
Stander
Vunipola
Tipuric
Falatau
PoM
Haskell
All are above him. I'm pretty sure at least one scot is as well
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A few decent individuals in there - trick will be getting balance right between carrying and work at the breakdown. Would have Warburton over Haskell and possibly SOB.
Climb up onto the top of your house and start screaming: 'stand up for the Ulstermen, stand.......'
ruckover wrote:Warburton proved during the 6N that he can only perform well when he doesn't have the pressure of leadership. He should tour, but not as captain.
He's not in the top 6 backrows in the british isles
Stander
Vunipola
Tipuric
Falatau
PoM
Haskell
All are above him. I'm pretty sure at least one scot is as well
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A few decent individuals in there - trick will be getting balance right between carrying and work at the breakdown. Would have Warburton over Haskell and possibly SOB.
Yet to see Sam put effort in
Why reward someone like that?
Heaslip when he's arsed to play is better than Warburton Leinster have about 4 back rows as good
but he (Warburton ) has signed a central contract with the WRU and it has to be worth something more than LSD or for the children here on --- money .
Look Russ even "I eat my breakfast twice" Woodward has stated the English back row is slow against the ABs that is the road to defeat .
The English back row looks good where it can dominate possession ( 70%) -- that won't happen in New Zealand especially if your second to the breakdown .
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rumncoke wrote:Heaslip when he's arsed to play is better than Warburton Leinster have about 4 back rows as good
but he (Warburton ) has signed a central contract with the WRU and it has to be worth something more than LSD or for the children here on --- money .
Look Russ even "I eat my breakfast twice" Woodward has stated the English back row is slow against the ABs that is the road to defeat .
The English back row looks good where it can dominate possession ( 70%) -- that won't happen in New Zealand especially if your second to the breakdown .
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You have surpassed yerself, rum. Heaslip is an 8. He does not play any other position. Warburton is a flanker and he can play 7 or 6. They are apples and oranges. Night and day. They play a completely different game and there is no basis for comparison. You might as well claim that Heaslip is better than Rory Best.
The only Welshers who should be anywhere near consideration for the test team are Tipuric, S.Williams and L.Williams with outside chances in case of injuries for Owens, AWJ, Webb, Biggar and North. The rest are a pile of sh1te.
It is a man's own mind, not his enemy or foe, that lures him to evil ways.
rumncoke wrote:Stander can play 6 or 8
thus playing Stander 6 would allow the selection of Heaslip at 6 with Tipuric at 7 .
And without doubt Tipuric is the best 7 in the 4 countries
Thus the selection of Heaslip before Warburton is perfectly logical you turd brain .
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I am assuming that you mean Heaslip at 8, and also that you thus believe he is the best 8 available to the Lions. As far as 8 goes, I would have at least Stander, Vunipola and Falateau ahead of him, and might make a case for Moriarty too. Falateau may be the best all rounder of the lot when he's fully back to form from injury.
Agree about Tipuric.
On 6N form my Lions backrow would be Tipuric/Stander (8)/POM. Sure - POM only had one game but showed everyone what we've been missing.
Your term "turd brain" did make me chortle!
while I may consider Heaslip underrated by some and better 8 than some ( but only when he is arsed) his problem is that his performances are more inconsistent than most.
the Comparison was a Heaslip Warburton not a case for Heaslip to be picked
my back row of choice would be 6 Pom 7 Tipuric and 8 Stander
but Pom and Stander could be interchangeable .
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Heaslip has virtually played himself off the plane since the autumn.
Billy Vs return hasn't helped his cause.
He doesn't even offer playing different positions which would be a bench option which the others do.
HOWEVER he has a proven track record of consistenly fronting up against the All Blacks which the others do not.
That is the draw.
bazzaj wrote:Heaslip has virtually played himself off the plane since the autumn.
Billy Vs return hasn't helped his cause.
He doesn't even offer playing different positions which would be a bench option which the others do.
HOWEVER he has a proven track record of consistenly fronting up against the All Blacks which the others do not.
That is the draw.
