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Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:27 pm
by bazzaj
We run very predictable straight lines or passive in to out lines which are easy to defend.
That is a thing of the past or should be at any rate.

Running late out to in lines looking for soft defensive shoulders is quite literally the way forward.
Only Trimble and Payne currently seem capable of that in our set up.

You can run as many complicated patterns and plays as you want but if noone is prepared to cut an aggressive intensive line to be used or decoyed, the defence will not be held
Therefore you will always be better served kicking for corners to get anywhere.
Noone on our side really seems to understand this at the mo.

Someone mentioned our defensive stats with vdm and Diack topping our tackle counts last night.
They might well be tackling but the hits are non aggressive and entirely on the attackers terms.
Good for feck all then.

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:11 pm
by Cockatrice
bazz.. agree with you on the type of tackle but without analysing I'll just say that 1-2 tackles from Ferris and players would go looking to avoid the contact…

Bowe is likely finished but lets see what the rest of the year brings..

We are nice at going side to side.Charles can break lines using brut force and Payne runs some brilliant lines from 15. McCloskey can make yards and draw defenders in but the offload has been coached out of him. Olding is becoming a one trick pony and Paddy doesn't look to be the Messiah. Anyhow once we get rid of Ruan we will see the backs come into their own..

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 3:57 pm
by Tender
Eggs wrote:
Tighter End wrote:Charlie's early season honeymoon period is long gone. His try against the run of play, barely makes up for his woeful passing, which he only ever does when he's forced to, and his panicking gazelle running attempts. He need a boot in the hole.
Rob Lyttle is the only positive from last nite. Marshall is good, but he's a concussion magnet. The number of times we were calling for Bowe to chase a kick, says everything about Bowe. Thanks for the memories, but reputation alone won't win us a game.
The crack in n the Terrace was great as always, but still left with a sour taste.
Are you for real? Catch yourself on, and stop talking gibberish. Charles last week was pure and simple the only reason we won. Without him it would have been a loss. He created more last week than this week, but that is because he was generally very well marked this week, and no other player seemed to be able to use the space that this created elsewhere. Reidy was probably more likely to be with him than either of the wingers.

And I have no idea what your point is about Luke. Yes he has a history of concussions. He was very good last night and looked a threat
I said Luke was good, but he came out of tackles last nite totally dazed. It's one thing being committed, but there's no point getting wrecked and sitting through another concussion.

Charlie's passing is crap, his kicking is crap and without having seen the replay of the turnips first try, it looked like he was nowhere. If I'm wrong about the try, I'll hold my hands up, but you pays yer money you takes yer choice. I call it like it is and if you want to say it's gibberish, heh-ho I'll send someone to find my feck, but they might be away a while.

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:32 pm
by Jackie Brown
Charlie cant pass. You get away with that in the English Premier league, not here.

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Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:36 pm
by UlsterNo9
Jackie Brown wrote:Charlie cant pass. You get away with that in the English Premier league, not here.

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>clapping :lol:

Brilliant JB!

Not a requirement to get a dozen plus caps for the All Blacks before your 24 birthday either.

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:44 pm
by Amiga500
Jackie Brown wrote:Charlie cant pass. You get away with that in the English Premier league, not here.
Exactly. He can do it in the wide open spaces of Eden Park or in Welford Road.


Can't cut it on a wet friday night in the Sportsground. >crazy1 :lol:

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:27 pm
by Jackie Brown
His passing has been tom kite though. He's a class act on the wing, center, not so much.


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Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:28 pm
by jean valjean
Come on now lads, charlie can pass, it's just that he fires it like a bullet. Perhaps in NZ folks have the ability to catch them.

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:38 pm
by ChrisL
Ulster should forget training this week . Just sit down and watch videos of Connachts last few matches .... over and over until something sinks in !!!

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 5:48 pm
by ruckover
Maybe our forwards can carry. We just don't know it because they always take the ball static and never pick and drive.

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:18 pm
by bazzaj
Cockatrice wrote:bazz.. agree with you on the type of tackle but without analysing I'll just say that 1-2 tackles from Ferris and players would go looking to avoid the contact…

Bowe is likely finished but lets see what the rest of the year brings..

We are nice at going side to side.Charles can break lines using brut force and Payne runs some brilliant lines from 15. McCloskey can make yards and draw defenders in but the offload has been coached out of him. Olding is becoming a one trick pony and Paddy doesn't look to be the Messiah. Anyhow once we get rid of Ruan we will see the backs come into their own..
Read my mind cockers with the reference to Fez which I was going to use.
Reckon one of his hits is worth about 10 of Robbie Diacks in terms of having an overall impact or influence on a game.
You'll see more physicality on 'Strictly' tonight than you'll see from Robbie D in a season.

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:20 pm
by Dave
Jackie Brown wrote:His passing has been tom kite though. He's a class act on the wing, center, not so much.


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That's it he is a winger. And a deadly one. He shouldn't be passing. We need to get him 1 v 1 with someone.

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:31 pm
by Tender
Yep, someone who can coach.

Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 6:40 pm
by Jackie Brown
Guys, at least we're banging out the tunes. The music at half time is beyond antisocial for both the punters and the residents. Will Grigg's on fire is bang on trend, the Ulster Branch PR department know us so well. It's what the people want.

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Re: Munster game

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 7:00 pm
by Tender
Not exactly inspiring the players either.