Re: Tory Leadership Thread
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 6:07 pm
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Indeed she will have a tough time sorting this mess plus all the different EU regulations and which stay and which needs kept to satisfy export regulations if exports still exist plus how to sort the border here out for animal and produce movementmikerob wrote:Loathsome gets DEFRA, so farming, fishing and floods.
Another you broke it, you fix it appointment as Loathsome will need to explain why leaving the EU is good for agriculture and fishing.
Aye and like you they are probably not strangers to blowing smoke out of their arses and up other people's. If you are saying that Barrenness May has been a good girl and muddled along thinking one thing but consistently voting differently then I think calling this simplistic is a bit naive for one so expert.Snipe Watson wrote:This is typically simplistic, sensationalist journalism which all the papers now seem to prefer to proper time consuming analysis.big mervyn wrote:https://www.facebook.com/TheIndependent ... 887066636/
It's easy to pick holes in any politicians record when you don't take the time to examine all of her record or the reasons why she voted the way she did. How many of those votes were free, how many where whipped and how many lines? A proper investigation would take time.
She has set out her stall. Let's see what she delivers.
NB. I see when i read down through the comments that most of what I have said has been addressed by others.
Has Simon Sheepshagger got the Welsh office?solidarity wrote:May as well get it over with.mikerob wrote:James Brokenshire (who he?) gets NI.
A remainer, probably more appropriate for NI.
However I wonder when MPs get the call, are they thinking "Please god, not NI, please god, not NI..."
If ever a man' name suited his job...
Ewe'n Sheepshagger, Shirley?big mervyn wrote:Has Simon Sheepshagger got the Welsh office?solidarity wrote:If ever a man' name suited his job...mikerob wrote:James Brokenshire (who he?) gets NI.
Away up the yarda. Are you seriously trying to say that is a piece of high quality incisive journalism? If you are, your standards of research and evidence are clearly much lower than mine. I'm saying the piece is lightweight, lacking in depth and context. Designed to push a few buttons for the casual reader without any appreciation of the realities of parliamentary party politics, it's poor, halfhearted journalism. For the most part, politicians follow the party line and vote accordingly.BaggyTrousers wrote:Aye and like you they are probably not strangers to blowing smoke out of their arses and up other people's. If you are saying that Barrenness May has been a good girl and muddled along thinking one thing but consistently voting differently then I think calling this simplistic is a bit naive for one so expert.Snipe Watson wrote:This is typically simplistic, sensationalist journalism which all the papers now seem to prefer to proper time consuming analysis.big mervyn wrote:https://www.facebook.com/TheIndependent ... 887066636/
It's easy to pick holes in any politicians record when you don't take the time to examine all of her record or the reasons why she voted the way she did. How many of those votes were free, how many where whipped and how many lines? A proper investigation would take time.
She has set out her stall. Let's see what she delivers.
NB. I see when i read down through the comments that most of what I have said has been addressed by others.
Many MPs go along year after year making the occasional statement but never really raising their heads above the parapet, and she appears to have done this to an amazing extent even with the senior job of Home Secretary, but one thing, one of the very few things we can hold our MOs to book on is how they have voted on serious issues.
I'd say before you dismissed this in your high handed manner perhaps it is you who should have had a look at her voting record and advised us then that the independents piece was purely simplistic and sensationalist. Instead you give us what? A layer of bullshit opinion to slap on the rest.
Depends where you're coming from. I thought it was excellent. She opened with the usual politically correct niceties and then basically took a sledge hammer to the Cameron years. There's opportunity to take offence if you want, but personally I don't see it. I think she was fairly brutal towards her former boss and then followed her words with actions and sacked all his cronies. What's not to like?big mervyn wrote:Thon speech sounds more patronizing every time you hear it.
Aye, the Cameron years that she was happy enough to acquiesce with since 2010, and would no doubt have continued to do so, if fate had not dealt her a winning hand.Snipe Watson wrote:Depends where you're coming from. I thought it was excellent. She opened with the usual politically correct niceties and then basically took a sledge hammer to the Cameron years. There's opportunity to take offence if you want, but personally I don't see it. I think she was fairly brutal towards her former boss and then followed her words with actions and sacked all his cronies. What's not to like?big mervyn wrote:Thon speech sounds more patronizing every time you hear it.
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