Cap'n Grumpy wrote:From the description of the what allegedly happened that I was given, I THINK the incident of Herring happens at 54 mins and 5 seconds into the match.
Watch from a few seconds before that and Rob is at the back of a ruck but having his leg held (illegally?) as the ruck breaks up. In trying to free himself you can see there is a "jerk" of his leg, and I THINK it is this that the citing guy has deemed to be an alleged stamp.
It is just before their first try. If they base any judgement on "outcome" as seems to be the vogue these days. nothing should happen as no one was injured and the alleged "stamped" simply got up and played on without any apparent ill feeling. Of course, they could say that as it's Ulster, we are not interested in outcome, but in intent, and we find Herring guilty as charged and condemn him to be hung drawn and quartered ....... and then suspended for 4 weeks with a week off for his previous good behaviour, another off for wearing a suit, but 10 added for pleading "not guilty", the sentence to commence after he recovers (if he recovers) from having his body dismembered into quarters.
If anyone knows better, feel free to enlighten us.
If it's that incident and he gets any kind of ban, the game has descended into farce.
I agree - but it does fit the detail of what was described to me. It may be there was a separate incident that I have not seen and which is worse. I have not re-watched the whole match let alone re-watched looking for any incident involving Rob. Hence I am not 100% sure this is the incident in question but form a quick scan through, it is the closest match to what was described.
If it turns out to be this and it is upheld, we may as well pack up and forget about rugby.
In a way I hope this is the incident, because to cite that is ludicrous, but perversely in another way, for the sake of the sport, I sort of hope there is a worse incident that I have missed ....... but that Rob still gets cleared.
I'm not arguing -
I'm just explaining why I'm right
austintranslation wrote:I've seen worse in a tag rugby match for flips sake. That happens at every single ruck in a rugby match from mini rugby to professional. How many times do you see scrum halves do it? Beyond an abomination if that's what the ban is for.
He's not banned yet .... it's just beyond abomination if that's what the citing is for.
I'm not arguing -
I'm just explaining why I'm right
austintranslation wrote:I've seen worse in a tag rugby match for flips sake. That happens at every single ruck in a rugby match from mini rugby to professional. How many times do you see scrum halves do it? Beyond an abomination if that's what the ban is for.
He's not banned yet .... it's just beyond abomination if that's what the citing is for.
If that is the only angle and he still gets banned then I'm done. How you can tell anything at all from that angle is ludicrous, I had to rewind it just to be sure I was watching the right part of the game.
You haven't seen me at my best yet. Let's be honest, you probably never will.
Always eager to enlighten my brethren allow me to do my usually forensic analysis.
As Red is attempting a jeckyll, and just before the camera pans out to a wider view, note a Weegie hand curling around Red's leg.
Red is now being held in.
From the wider angle you will note Red raising his leg, just before the action moves on to Hogg.
What you are witnessing is a man attempting to jerk his leg up & away from the grasp that it is held in, nothing more than that.
To believe any different one needs to be either a cheating Scots citing/disciplinary panel operative or an utter idiot who should be dragged before the courts and condemned to a life wearing Clownshoes.
I believe this to be a calculated & spurious action, intended only to cause disruption. This individual needs to be sorted out. Come on Ulster fingers out & get in there, this is getting utterly ridiculous.
NEVER MOVE ON. Years on, I cannot ever watch Ireland with anything but indifference, I continue to wish for the imminent death of Donal Spring, the FIRFUC's executioner of Wee Paddy & Wee Stu, and I hate the FIRFUCs with undiminished passion.
