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Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:21 pm
by promenader 2
Cormac wrote:Nordi Murphy
:D :thumleft:

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:23 pm
by Dave
ColinM wrote:
Dave wrote:We can't produce our own so we have to get them from somewhere.

The provincial identity has become more and more diluted since the pro era began. Ulster is basically nothing more than a belfast based club in the pro 14. There is very little "Ulster" passion about the kingspan these days, on and off the pitch. This isn't GAWA loyalist kulchurr spake but just how things are. There are simply more players in Leinster due to the greater population. The provincial system is not a fair distribution of the best rugby players in Ireland.
The greater population point has to be a misnomer IMHO but salient points all around. Population has a part to play but systems have as big a part to play... what has happened in Leinster in the days since they couldn't produce a forward to now when they have more or less all the props in the Ireland squad?

Our CiC will tell us that participation in rugby in Ulster is higher than ever before but aside from doing some positive work in non traditional areas and schools the end product does not appear to be there.

Does UR measure the conversion of U18/Schools players into the senior game as a percentage or other metric? Would Col Logan have this as a KPI?
They were not really harnessing the numbers they had. BOD changed everything (single handedly). Players like Furlong would have stayed in GAA. We have no BOD type figure. Nobody wants to be the next Roger Wilson. Ringrose will get the next generation.

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:26 pm
by Cornerfleg
I think the trouble we have now is that all the kids wanted to be the next Nial O'Connor ... or Mike McComish ...and Lo ... they did!

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:31 pm
by Cracker
Lets get back to the real point of this news and ignore the usual whingers. If we fail to produce our own talent we just have to look elsewhere. Jordi would simply be a great signing for Ulster.

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:32 pm
by Dave
Cracker wrote:Lets get back to the real point of this news and ignore the usual whingers. If we fail to produce our own talent we just have to look elsewhere. Jordi would simply be a great signing for Ulster.
+1

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:36 pm
by thecrouch
It's definitely a great signing like. Relax thyself.

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:39 pm
by justinr73
BaggyTrousers wrote:
justinr73 wrote:
UlsterNo9 wrote:
justinr73 wrote:The Spaniard will do fine.
The Catalan

He was named after Catalonia's Saint Jordi.

#freecatalonia

HWM had insider knowledge on this since the Wasps game.
I stand corrected. HWM is sourcing the onesie already no doubt.
No insider knowledge required, just a modicum of intelligence and the ability to remember facts. Anyone who has visited Barcelona will know of St Jordi just as those who have been to Paris will be aware of St Genevieve.

Fuc'k the Catalans, just greedy money grabbingscum with the same mindset as dumb little england Brexiteers. Spain is being kind to the undeserving wretches, they could let them go and then ruin the Catalan economy for spite.

Decent signing ........................if he's ever fit.
I've been 3 times and I didn't cross St Jordi's path (he must have drunk in other bars) but what I did notice was that it's a city full of thieving stars.

Having been briefly deprived of my wallet (until I challenged the scrote and he gave it me back) I vowed never to return.

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:39 pm
by ColinM
Cracker wrote:Lets get back to the real point of this news and ignore the usual whingers.
Yeah SUFTUM

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:42 pm
by Dublin4
While Jordi will be missed down here, it's far better for the player to get game time and develop. He is only 26 and has a great future.
It says something about the surfeit of back row players in Leinster that a player who beat the All Blacks last year can't get on his provincial team and has to ply his trade elsewhere.

Ulster should look at signing Andrew Porter in the front row and Ross Moloney in the second row. They are excellent prospects who are just down the pecking order here and should not be left languishing in the B and I Cup. God knows how Jordan Larmour is going to progress when Lowe has just been signed from NZ. Still, it's a good complaint to have.

You could have quite a colony of ex Blue players with Cooney, Timoney and now Jordi.

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:54 pm
by Mac
Unlike most of what's happened/happening with UR over the
past while, this I actually welcome.

IF...... he stays any way fit I regard this as being one move in
the right direction ........... after soooooo many wrong. At the
very least this time we know what we are getting AND what he
is capable of doing.

If he buys into our current standards I don't want him near the
place. I'm hoping he'll bring his own intact.

"Nordi" :cheers: :red:

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:19 pm
by Russ
Dave wrote:
ColinM wrote:
Dave wrote:We can't produce our own so we have to get them from somewhere.

The provincial identity has become more and more diluted since the pro era began. Ulster is basically nothing more than a belfast based club in the pro 14. There is very little "Ulster" passion about the kingspan these days, on and off the pitch. This isn't GAWA loyalist kulchurr spake but just how things are. There are simply more players in Leinster due to the greater population. The provincial system is not a fair distribution of the best rugby players in Ireland.
The greater population point has to be a misnomer IMHO but salient points all around. Population has a part to play but systems have as big a part to play... what has happened in Leinster in the days since they couldn't produce a forward to now when they have more or less all the props in the Ireland squad?

Our CiC will tell us that participation in rugby in Ulster is higher than ever before but aside from doing some positive work in non traditional areas and schools the end product does not appear to be there.

Does UR measure the conversion of U18/Schools players into the senior game as a percentage or other metric? Would Col Logan have this as a KPI?
They were not really harnessing the numbers they had. BOD changed everything (single handedly). Players like Furlong would have stayed in GAA. We have no BOD type figure. Nobody wants to be the next Roger Wilson. Ringrose will get the next generation.
Players wanted to be the next PJ and Duncan

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Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:20 pm
by Russ
Seems belfast is now more attractive than galway

Can we brainstorm shop ideas for Jordi to get involved with?

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Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:26 pm
by Dave
Russ wrote:Seems belfast is now more attractive than galway

Can we brainstorm shop ideas for Jordi to get involved with?

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Get him a token GAWA top and a church to attend.

Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:27 pm
by Russ
Dave wrote:
Russ wrote:Seems belfast is now more attractive than galway

Can we brainstorm shop ideas for Jordi to get involved with?

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Get him a token GAWA top and a church to attend.
There's a big trade in Barcelona shirts in the West

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Re: Jordi Murphy to Ulster

Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2017 2:29 pm
by Dave
Russ wrote:
Dave wrote:
Russ wrote:Seems belfast is now more attractive than galway

Can we brainstorm shop ideas for Jordi to get involved with?

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Get him a token GAWA top and a church to attend.
There's a big trade in Barcelona shirts in the West

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Plenty called Murphy too