Mexicans

[MACKTHEKNIFE]

I have to agree with a lot of sentiment on the thread. I was in a section of mainly Ulsterfans and thought they were great fans and everyone I met over the weekend was sound as a pound.
I was talking to a couple of Ulster lads outside the stand when some idiots in a Leinster jersey decided to come over and give it loads to the both me in my Munster Jacket and the lads in their Ulster shirts,
The Ulster lads were saying they couldn't believe what the Leinster fans were like but sadly for me it comes as no surprise.
Big shout to Kenny and the boys from Larne and to Barry "the bar steward" ( his name for himself) and his bunch of merry men, thanks for the all the craic in Wetherspoons in Feltham on Saturday morning.
Hope to see you all in Thomond against next year.

[BaggyTrousers]

Speak as you find of course, but apart from a couple of Mexicans having a traditional "spilt pint" arguement amongst the mayhem in the Orange Tree during the Champions League Final I found them grand.

Travelled back on the late tube with a bunch of them and the crack was good. The cheeky barstewards were handing out wee gold stars to stick on their shirts Still, they gave us one each and we even swapped a fleg.

Good crack on the way to the ground with a London Welsh fan and a bunch of diamond geezers going to see the 'ammers.

Good laff outside Twickers with some Leeds fans and a bunch of Asturians. I even talked to them in my pi$h poor Spanish - I think I convinced them to SUFTUM. Did anybody else see the bloke climbing the statue and getting arrested when he peeled off his boxers?

The only numpties where I was sitting in the ground were a couple of miserable turnips who objected to the Stand Ups. Quite a few English fans near us including some Cornish Pirates who were all Standing Up.

Great day bar the result.

Funny how you can be in the same place and have such a different experience Merv, I was at the Orange Tree also for part of teh CL final - stood outside of course - and when I went to siphon the phyton, I heard my 2nd all-Mexican row of the day, much of it around whether all Germans were/are Nazi Barstewards or just most of them, very heated and not an ounce of irony or any other type of humour involved.

I did meet a tiny young lady who claimed to be 8 stone but I'd place at 6 tops who had 3 stick on stars, she was one of the few Mexicans I met who wanted to chat. They may be the group that disproves my theory of "Only good Mexican, dead Mexican"

Glad so many appear to have enjoyed the craic, it remains my least fun HC final of teh 5 attended & not one ounce of that for rugby reasons, just a dearth of craic.

Did meet and have as best a conversation as we could with 6 or 7 Clermont fans who were more like the thing and what I'm used to with HC finals.

[Snipe Watson]

[BuckRogers]

I think, as has been said, that with all fans you will get a mix off the good, bad and the ugly and indeed peoples perceptions of what is 'good bad and ugly' will also be subjective.

For my part I had a great day out, was absolutely blind drunk and hopefully didn't offend anyone though given I had accumulated a Leinster, Cermont and a different Ulster scarf to the one i started the day with, I presume i didn't. More generally I thought the carry-on between the fans was great from the trains to and from the ground through to the match and festivities after.

[stickinout]

Have to say i think Sexton is a classy operator, he had a few words of respect for Paddy Jackson a few days before the game and handles himself like a gentleman whether he's winning or losing - see photo above. Mind you, he does keep something special for ROG when he plays against him, i remember one incident after a Leinster try where he rubbed it in Rog's face in something akin to a sibling rivalry. I think he's matured since then though......

[HwoodMike2umate]

My considered guess is it's probably some dodgy Mexicans in our "Ulster" section (L31) who now have our 2 hipflasks.

[bazzaj]

I must say I have been to five finals and I thought the Leinster fans were brilliant.
I have great friends through rugby in Dublin and they are some of the best banter best partying people I have ever met.
Never have anything bad to say about them quite the opposite.
Stayed in Twickenham till closing time (9pm?)and never experienced one word from all the Leinster fans I mixed with that was anything other than encouragement and positive about UR.
Do not think they feel the same way about Munster or vise versa for that matter.
No loved lost there.
For reference the Barmy Arms is definately the best pub I went to, though bring a hip flask as you tend to sober up between rounds.
Great singing and top spot.

[Cap'n Grumpy]

My considered guess is it's probably some dodgy Mexicans in our "Ulster" section (L31) who now have our 2 hipflasks.

And I would think that your guess is ill-considered.

Have you ever come home from a match where you haven't lost something?

[Big Smoke Culchie]

I'm sure we would be fairly gobby if we had a team like that.

Under the circumstances I thought they took their win with a lot more grace than most others would.

[BaggyTrousers]

Whats your point Snipe? I'm talking about their fans, I have no doubt their players behaved impeccably other than Nacewa driving his knee into Ferris's back off the ball.

[BaggyTrousers]

I'm sure we would be fairly gobby if we had a team like that.

Under the circumstances I thought they took their win with a lot more grace than most others would.

Ah but you see, that BSC is up to you and its also your personal responsibility. I have never in my Ulster supporting career stretching back 50 odd years rubbed anyone's nose in anything, win lose or draw. Further, for me half the pleasure is from more than just the result, its in the people you meet, the people you talk to like old friends yet probably in most cases will never meet again, its in people from different countries and I love the chance to talk to them as I did in spades at Leicester for example.

Bart said something similar to you and I'm sure you are both gentlemen but no I wouldn't be lording it over anyone but I would at least have an interest in talking to them. That for me is what was missing on Saturday, compared to every other big HC match whether one of the 5 finals I've been to or an away game. I can honestly say I got more craic from Saints fans last year & the Leicester fans this, both home & away, than on Saturday.

I haven't bad mouthed Leinster - since before the match - they are a magnificent team & I sincerely hope they thrash Ospreys at the weekend. My anti-Mexican hostilities are at an end from 20th May as promised to D4 on another thread and I am delighted to see Robnoxious getting European Player of the year, he is in great form and well deserves it, indeed I'd go further, he has had a couple of less than stellar years for a guy of his ability and its great to see a player of that ability back to his best. I still admire BOD greatly and always will. There is just no doubting the better team won & some of their rugby was more than a bit special. On the day we were lucky to come 2nd.

Maybe I was unlucky, but that was my experience, I'm simply reporting my experience.

[Shan]

However, when all's said and done at Thomond Park literally a dozen or more Turnips actively came up and wishes me well with the team. As fans go, I far prefer those from the Peoples Republic of Turnipstan.

Plus we give youse fair use of our caravans. Makes it feel like a real vacation and offers such value for money for such a long trek down. Course the fecking match was better too given there wasn't a gulf between the teams. See we've even allowed our team to disimprove so yers could compete just to make you happier. Fecking too nice by far we are.

[Snipe Watson]

Whats your point Snipe? I'm talking about their fans, I have no doubt their players behaved impeccably other than Nacewa driving his knee into Ferris's back off the ball.

My point is it's a good photo and a snapshot of the all Irish final. I'm a Sexton fan and believe that for the next world cup he will make a great wingman for PJ.

[BaggyTrousers]

Fair enoughski.

[Cap'n Grumpy]

I'm sure we would be fairly gobby if we had a team like that.

Under the circumstances I thought they took their win with a lot more grace than most others would.

Ah but you see, that BSC is up to you and its also your personal responsibility. I have never in my Ulster supporting career stretching back 50 odd years rubbed anyone's nose in anything, win lose or draw. Further, for me half the pleasure is from more than just the result, its in the people you meet, the people you talk to like old friends yet probably in most cases will never meet again, its in people from different countries and I love the chance to talk to them as I did in spades at Leicester for example.

Bart said something similar to you and I'm sure you are both gentlemen but no I wouldn't be lording it over anyone but I would at least have an interest in talking to them. That for me is what was missing on Saturday, compared to every other big HC match whether one of the 5 finals I've been to or an away game. I can honestly say I got more craic from Saints fans last year & the Leicester fans this, both home & away, than on Saturday.

I haven't bad mouthed Leinster - since before the match - they are a magnificent team & I sincerely hope they thrash Ospreys at the weekend. My anti-Mexican hostilities are at an end from 20th May as promised to D4 on another thread and I am delighted to see Robnoxious getting European Player of the year, he is in great form and well deserves it, indeed I'd go further, he has had a couple of less than stellar years for a guy of his ability and its great to see a player of that ability back to his best. I still admire BOD greatly and always will. There is just no doubting the better team won & some of their rugby was more than a bit special. On the day we were lucky to come 2nd.

Maybe I was unlucky, but that was my experience, I'm simply reporting my experience.

Gotta say - my thoughts on how things should be, and my experiences at Twickers & previously at RDS are not dissimilar to baggie's. I'm not going to tar all Mexicans with the one brush (and nor, I suspect would Baggie), but I have just more experience of a higher percentage of their supporters being aloof or downright unsporting than any other team I have come across.