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Russ wrote:

Dublin4 wrote:What good did Joe do Irish rugby?
None.

OK, he won two Six Nations back to back. OK, he almost beat NZ at the Aviva for the first time only to be foiled at the finish. OK, his team beat the Springboks in SA, a first for Irish rugby. OK we have more players challenging for selection than normal. OK, all his players say they love his coaching and he kept Luke Marshall in the squad as 24th man right through the last 6N to have him tuned in.
But apart from these not insubstantial facts, just what has he done to deserve to keep his job?

You seem to be the only one hankering for him to be fired

Joe won 2 6Nations titles when both england and france were the opposite kf Sunni
However he did win them

Joe then had the worst 6Nations since the Kiddinya era as he was unable to evolve his team

He then selected the same out of form players to tour South Africa
They then heard the public outcry and may have faked sick

Following that Joe picked on the provinces strengths

1. A Leinster pack
2. An Ulster backline
3. Supplemented by some fresh Connacht blood (Cronin and Dillane particularly)
4. He has the Lions scrumhalf

Needless to say Joe did not put himself in this position but fell into this position purely by accident

Then let's go back to the NZ game where we "nearly" won (nearly is not winning and we should never celebraye failure)
He selected Bobbo who kicked the ball away. Wee Mads who missed the final tackle. Daverage who helped Wee Mads miss the final tackle

Now consider Australia in the same series. Whereby those same players cost us the game with their mindless play

Now consider Argentina this year. Where Joe selected players who could not cope with the pace out wide and out the entire blame on injury to one player, when actually the same mentioned players above lost us that game too

Like wales Ireland usually have a strong 1st XV and people said our SID was weak.
This weekend proved that infact our SID is strong but were just never trusted because they couldn't play the kicking system that Daverage Look ma Bobbo and Wee Mads could

Here's to a proper rugby future for Ireland. Whether with Joe or without we now know that some players are good enough and some are bench standard at best

Russ wrote:

Jackie Brown wrote:Cronin is brad pitt

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He's still from connacht though

thecrouch wrote:... has applied for the Crusaders job and will leave Ireland after this current tour (presumably only if he's successful in his application).

Interesting times ahead.

BaggyTrousers wrote:So Andy Farrell then .............

On Schmidt, it would be odd if he were to go after the tour unless he's been told to feck off. The Super Rugby jobs are all taken until January so unless Ireland want the new boss in for the AIs then why would he go now.

That said, I don't care, good coach, crap selector. Maybe now we will see the end of:

The Dead Kearneys - no longer worth a damn
Fitzuseless -never worth a damn
Quiff - not a bad player, just not good enough in any single position to be an international, holder of far too many of PJ's caps.

Many other Mexicans, Jordi included, are fine by me.

BaggyTrousers wrote:On Schmidt, it would be odd if he were to go after the tour unless he's been told to feck off.

Dublin4 wrote:Don't you worry Russ, your favourite panto villains will be back in time for Christmas. Maybe not Mads but you will have the full cast otherwise.
Now Quinn Roux, was he in Zorba the Greek?

Dublin4 wrote: Now Quinn Roux, was he in Zorba the Greek?

BaggyTrousers wrote:

Dublin4 wrote: Now Quinn Roux, was he in Zorba the Greek?

Splendid D4, I knew not to give up on you.

Fair enough to a degree, all of a sudden The Beast is actually being considered to be a scrummager, so you lob a lumbering giant in behind the tighthead. Personally I have long considered that the Beast only inconveniences a prop when he has a gigantic or ferociously strong hooker beside him, Bismarck & Strauss fulfilling those roles.

Anyway, an entirely new bench? I didn't think he would buy into a victory at altitude being impossible. Just imagine Jack McGrath being injured early

Mind you, that backline is almost good enough to play for Ulster.

Amiga500 wrote:

BaggyTrousers wrote:On Schmidt, it would be odd if he were to go after the tour unless he's been told to feck off.

I remember reading something about his kid maybe being able to get treatment in Australia, and he was thinking of moving home to enable it.

If so, more than fair enough.