Ulster Vs Edinburgh Friday 7th Sept 7.35pm KO Premier Sports

[Russ]

DUPs replacement for the Common Agricultural Policy post Brexit - get UR to employee them

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[thecrouch]

Looking forward to seeing The Hond make his half time saunter to the middle of the pitch.

Is he IQ yet?

Why have we not cut him loose yet?

Cant afford to.. him with a farm and everything... I dispare and hope that he is the last of the wasters we sign with little or no thought to the terms and conditions of the contract that will allow for such a cut..

He bought a farm?!

[BaggyTrousers]

Looking forward to seeing The Hond make his half time saunter to the middle of the pitch.

Is he IQ yet?

Why have we not cut him loose yet?

Cant afford to.. him with a farm and everything... I dispare and hope that he is the last of the wasters we sign with little or no thought to the terms and conditions of the contract that will allow for such a cut..

He bought a farm?!

Keeps him busy in between the games when he's not playing rugby.

[Cockatrice]

Looking forward to seeing The Hond make his half time saunter to the middle of the pitch.

Is he IQ yet?

Why have we not cut him loose yet?

Cant afford to.. him with a farm and everything... I dispare and hope that he is the last of the wasters we sign with little or no thought to the terms and conditions of the contract that will allow for such a cut..

He bought a farm?!

Yes we bought him here to buy a farm and now we can't get rid of him because no one else in the world of rugby wants him.. I remain unconvinced that Bryn is entirely blameless in this debacle and could have said no to Kiss.. we are pissing a couple of hundred thousand down the drain each year.

[BR]

To be fair, for all your Pienaars and Mullers fully integrating in Ulster life, none of them went so far as to buy a farm!

[BR]

Is it not on TV?

[Dave]

Buying a farm would seem to indicate that he intends to stay put in NI. He must realise that he will not get another contract. He is unlikely to leave the farm to seek a contract elsewhere. This was one last pay day for him. Remember that when buying UR merch and tickets.

[Rooster]

To be fair, for all your Pienaars and Mullers fully integrating in Ulster life, none of them went so far as to buy a farm!

To be fair Muller has quite a few acres at home almost 5000 of them I think.

[BR]

Buying a farm would seem to indicate that he intends to stay put in NI. He must realise that he will not get another contract. He is unlikely to leave the farm to seek a contract elsewhere. This was one last pay day for him. Remember that when buying UR merch and tickets.

So if Muller or Pienaar had bought a farm here, we would consider them to be mercenaries out for a big final pay-out?

Players who want to ultimately settle here are normally applauded for their commitment to the province. It sounds like we only want commitment from players with a certain level of ability.

[Rooster]

Buying a farm would seem to indicate that he intends to stay put in NI. He must realise that he will not get another contract. He is unlikely to leave the farm to seek a contract elsewhere. This was one last pay day for him. Remember that when buying UR merch and tickets.

So if Muller or Pienaar had bought a farm here, we would consider them to be mercenaries out for a big final pay-out?

Players who want to ultimately settle here are normally applauded for their commitment to the province. It sounds like we only want commitment from players with a certain level of ability.

Perhaps he is forward thinking and likes to live in the country, a small farm around Ballymena is worth the same as some of the Belfast houses and probably easier to sell on again.

[222toHounslow]

To be fair, for all your Pienaars and Mullers fully integrating in Ulster life, none of them went so far as to buy a farm!

To be fair Muller has quite a few acres at home almost 5000 of them I think.

Not for long while the current land grab is going on in South Africa.

[Dave]

Buying a farm would seem to indicate that he intends to stay put in NI. He must realise that he will not get another contract. He is unlikely to leave the farm to seek a contract elsewhere. This was one last pay day for him. Remember that when buying UR merch and tickets.

So if Muller or Pienaar had bought a farm here, we would consider them to be mercenaries out for a big final pay-out?

Players who want to ultimately settle here are normally applauded for their commitment to the province. It sounds like we only want commitment from players with a certain level of ability.

You can't seriously compare Muller and Pienaar with the Hond...

[BR]

Buying a farm would seem to indicate that he intends to stay put in NI. He must realise that he will not get another contract. He is unlikely to leave the farm to seek a contract elsewhere. This was one last pay day for him. Remember that when buying UR merch and tickets.

So if Muller or Pienaar had bought a farm here, we would consider them to be mercenaries out for a big final pay-out?

Players who want to ultimately settle here are normally applauded for their commitment to the province. It sounds like we only want commitment from players with a certain level of ability.

You can't seriously compare Muller and Pienaar with the Hond...

I can.

What I am comparing is the players' apparent motives for coming to/staying in Ulster.

Why is there an assumption that because a player fails to make the grade, that his motives are less honourable than those who excel?

[Dave]

I can.

What I am comparing is the players' apparent motives for coming to/staying in Ulster.

Why is there an assumption that because a player fails to make the grade, that his motives are less honourable than those who excel?

Where he stays is none of my business. I am not assuming anything. I have never bought into the 'Ulster through and through' nonsense. Pienaar was on a heck of salary, even if he did turn down better offers. I am questioning his motivation. I don't believe he represents value for money in terms of:

1) ability
2) effort

At 27 he would still have many seasons as a prop. Why settle for an unsustainable industry (post-brexit) such as farming?

[BR]

I can.

What I am comparing is the players' apparent motives for coming to/staying in Ulster.

Why is there an assumption that because a player fails to make the grade, that his motives are less honourable than those who excel?

Where he stays is none of my business. I am not assuming anything. I have never bought into the 'Ulster through and through' nonsense. Pienaar was on a heck of salary, even if he did turn down better offers. I am questioning his motivation. I don't believe he represents value for money in terms of:

1) ability
2) effort

At 27 he would still have many seasons as a prop. Why settle for an unsustainable industry (post-brexit) such as farming?

I'm not in a position to comment on his effort.

I'm sure Rooster will confirm, but for many out there farming is not an industry; it's an expensive hobby.