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What a waste, hindsight is an amazing thing, but could the academy not have played last Friday night? Not that I care what happens the rest of the season.

One for the medical people but Lyttle was walking around on the pitch after last weeks match after having come off with what even to the novice looked like a hamstring... now described as a significant injury... could this have been better protected and could doing so lesson any potential risk of adding to it..

Cockatrice wrote:One for the medical people but Lyttle was walking around on the pitch after last weeks match after having come off with what even to the novice looked like a hamstring... now described as a significant injury... could this have been better protected and could doing so lesson any potential risk of adding to it..

Was puzzled at that, assumed the injury must have been cramp and he came off as a precaution

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Is RICE still the goto protocol? If so, then at least two of those were broken.

Disclaimer: I might be wrong.

Dave wrote:Is RICE still the goto protocol? If so, then at least two of those were broken.

Disclaimer: I might be wrong.

RICE is the protocol alright.
He was sitting on the bench with ice on it. If he came off around the 50 minute mark, he'd have had the ice off by 80. Don't think a few minutes walking round the pitch would cause a problem.

He should have been taken home by air ambulance.

Snipe Watson wrote:

Dave wrote:Is RICE still the goto protocol? If so, then at least two of those were broken.

Disclaimer: I might be wrong.

RICE is the protocol alright.
He was sitting on the bench with ice on it. If he came off around the 50 minute mark, he'd have had the ice off by 80. Don't think a few minutes walking round the pitch would cause a problem.

I read an article at way back suggesting that strict adherence to rice in the first few hours is most critical. Reducing the blood flow decreases the intra muscular haemorrhage which can reduce the recovery period. It cannot undue the damage. Walking would increase blood flow as the muscle is forced to contract. It's not possible to rule out walking entirely but unnecessary walking might be deemed ill advised. You cannot use ice continuously but can rest and elevate for as long as you want.

I might be wrong and there is probably new evidence since that one article I read once (making me an expert).

Dave wrote:

Snipe Watson wrote:

Dave wrote:Is RICE still the goto protocol? If so, then at least two of those were broken.

Disclaimer: I might be wrong.

RICE is the protocol alright.
He was sitting on the bench with ice on it. If he came off around the 50 minute mark, he'd have had the ice off by 80. Don't think a few minutes walking round the pitch would cause a problem.

I read an article at way back suggesting that strict adherence to rice in the first few hours is most critical. Reducing the blood flow decreases the intra muscular haemorrhage which can reduce the recovery period. It cannot undue the damage. Walking would increase blood flow as the muscle is forced to contract. It's not possible to rule out walking entirely but unnecessary walking might be deemed ill advised. You cannot use ice continuously but can rest and elevate for as long as you want.

I might be wrong and there is probably new evidence since that one article I read once (making me an expert).

I dunno Dave, I'm no medic.

Snipe Watson wrote:

Dave wrote:

Snipe Watson wrote:

Dave wrote:Is RICE still the goto protocol? If so, then at least two of those were broken.

Disclaimer: I might be wrong.

RICE is the protocol alright.
He was sitting on the bench with ice on it. If he came off around the 50 minute mark, he'd have had the ice off by 80. Don't think a few minutes walking round the pitch would cause a problem.

I read an article at way back suggesting that strict adherence to rice in the first few hours is most critical. Reducing the blood flow decreases the intra muscular haemorrhage which can reduce the recovery period. It cannot undue the damage. Walking would increase blood flow as the muscle is forced to contract. It's not possible to rule out walking entirely but unnecessary walking might be deemed ill advised. You cannot use ice continuously but can rest and elevate for as long as you want.

I might be wrong and there is probably new evidence since that one article I read once (making me an expert).

I dunno Dave, I'm no medic.

Me neither. Let's never speak of this again.

Dave wrote:

Snipe Watson wrote:

Dave wrote:

Snipe Watson wrote:

Dave wrote:Is RICE still the goto protocol? If so, then at least two of those were broken.

Disclaimer: I might be wrong.

RICE is the protocol alright.
He was sitting on the bench with ice on it. If he came off around the 50 minute mark, he'd have had the ice off by 80. Don't think a few minutes walking round the pitch would cause a problem.

I read an article at way back suggesting that strict adherence to rice in the first few hours is most critical. Reducing the blood flow decreases the intra muscular haemorrhage which can reduce the recovery period. It cannot undue the damage. Walking would increase blood flow as the muscle is forced to contract. It's not possible to rule out walking entirely but unnecessary walking might be deemed ill advised. You cannot use ice continuously but can rest and elevate for as long as you want.

I might be wrong and there is probably new evidence since that one article I read once (making me an expert).

I dunno Dave, I'm no medic.

Me neither. Let's never speak of this again.

"Non doctors" eh?

I thought it was PRICE now. i.e. don't play rugby in the first place

He left on crutches but that was just papering over the tear.

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Meanwhile Irish Examiner says Charlie not as bad as first thought, popped rib but will be 4 weeks at most out.

Ah Dave, there's the Doctor - the Irish Examiner.
Actually, I would put the onus on the physio to get that Rice to the spot.

"Top Doctoring ... It was like a merry-go-ICU on here last night"