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someone else with a better knowledge than myself of exactly how you get 'in' would probably be better equipped to answer this but from what I understand there is a lot of cosying up done for a period of time, hob-knobbing the right people etc putting in your time in certain lower capacities etc then one is invited in.
Insider knowledge is not necessary, I believe, RHH to strongly suspect how advancement in the UB structure is controlled / achieved.

I am sure there are many similar committee structures where progression is controlled by the longer serving members.

Lets first say however that it is likely that a large number of the Club Representatives have absolutely no desire to progress through the various levels of committees or officerships within UB.

Where a single clique with the numeric ability to control exists, then progression is readily controlled by that clique. Examples have existed, to my direct knowledge, where there have been two roughly equally sized cliques. Entry and progression is then controlled outside the committee structure and agreed beforehand. It is then known in advance of the formal meeting who will be proposed and elected in that particular year.

Either of these are difficult to break down as it requires a sizeable group of ‘true democrats’ to recognise and stand up against the clique(s). It is unlikely to happen in a committee based structure in any organisation. It is less likely in any organisation where the Ex-Presidents are there by right. My own thoughts are that only the immediate Past President should be there by entitlement in any organisation with a committee structure. It is always useful to be able to talk to someone who has just done the job but is still within the confines of committee confidentiality.

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Looks a bit like we might have to call him the fit controller rather than the fat controller, FC still fits the bill though :lol:
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My own thoughts are that only the immediate Past President should be there by entitlement in any organisation with a committee structure.

Hardly "democratic" :roll:
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Works quite well Browner. President elected for 2 year term with 2nd year as IPP.
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One of the difficulties of a truely democratic committee system is that continuity of policy may be lost since if the committee change is radical they they spend time changing everything the previous committee may have started and progress is lost. Even if they wish to continue the same policies time is lost establishing what progress the policies of the previous committee have achived.
For this reason it is normal that only a limited number of Committee members a replaced on a year to year basis. This of course lends its self to "cloning" . The continuing existing Committee members ensure that those elected will not "rock the boat".
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Does not surprise at all BB that you bring up moot points to support the 'perpetuation of influence' much admired by yourself it would seem.
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let's not get side-tracked here - committees may be an ok way to arrange a village fete, but they're a completely (and demostrably) sh1t way to run a business
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darkside lightside wrote:let's not get side-tracked here - committees may be an ok way to arrange a village fete, but they're a completely (and demostrably) sh1t way to run a business
Agree totally, I want someone at the helm who runs UR, why we need democracy with that I don't know. I've never worked for a company that is democratic, all were run by someone. I want someone there that is directly accountable for what happens, committees dilute that. If we are talking democracy and accountability then it should be to the supporters, not some committee. I suspect the supporters provide more income for UR than any committee.
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I want someone there that is directly accountable for what happens
Who would the person be accountable to?
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And the winner is!

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Glynncommando wrote:
brianc wrote: .....they have decided he lied at CV/interview stage. ....
Just to clarify, then....IF he (or someone else?) lied in relation to the CV....that would be ok with you, then.
GC, no absolutely not OK. Why do you ask, do you KNOW of someone who did this?
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brianc wrote:
Glynncommando wrote:
brianc wrote: .....they have decided he lied at CV/interview stage. ....
Just to clarify, then....IF he (or someone else?) lied in relation to the CV....that would be ok with you, then.
GC, no absolutely not OK. Why do you ask, do you KNOW of someone who did this?

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cables wrote:
I want someone there that is directly accountable for what happens
Who would the person be accountable to?
To the fans, just like a CEO of a PLC is accountable to the shareholders.
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President elected for 2 year term with 2nd year as IPP.
a bit naughty Mr C.........you know what i mean.
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