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Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:57 am
by Dave
UlsterNo9 wrote:Dave wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:03 pm
A defeat to Connacht, is it still a successful season, discuss yes/no ..
We ran a fully loaded Leinster side playing at home in the Aviva closer than English champions Leicester and French giants Toulouse in the European Cup knockouts.... I say yes.
We were still within a beagles gowl up until 65 odd minutes, which is more than Toulouse with their all international lineup and massive budget can say.
Good answer
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:59 am
by HammerTime
Leinster could easily have had 3 more v us. Also Toulouse crumbled spectacularly after their early injury and yellow. Did the same after 2nd yellow. The only thing is we were p!sh poor against Leinster/Ireland and still kept the score respectable. Probably the worst we’ve played v them in a long time including the 2nd half capitulation at the RDS.
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:16 pm
by UlsterNo9
jean valjean wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:24 am
The weather was the key factor in keeping our score close. Leinster would not have racked up the points they did against Leicester and toulouse in downpour. Remember LR away?
I don't think the weather was that big a factor. If you think it was then take into account the 5 games we've played them prior to Euro last 16. All 5 of those games were by finer margins.
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:17 pm
by Dave
The 'losing to Leinster by less than Toulouse lost to Leinster' trophy will be Dan's greatest achievement.
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:23 pm
by UlsterNo9
Dave wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:17 pm
The 'losing to Leinster by less than Toulouse lost to Leinster' trophy will be Dan's greatest achievement.
He has a few wins also.
SUFTUM followed by "Can we play you every week" chants pouring out on the terrace.
None of us are happy losing to Leinster, it deeply sickens me, but they're in a golden era with an embarrassment of talent.
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:43 pm
by Dave
UlsterNo9 wrote:Dave wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:17 pm
The 'losing to Leinster by less than Toulouse lost to Leinster' trophy will be Dan's greatest achievement.
He has a few wins also.
SUFTUM followed by "Can we play you every week" chants pouring out on the terrace.
None of us are happy losing to Leinster, it deeply sickens me, but they're in a golden era with an embarrassment of talent.
It will make this year's urc win even sweeter
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:22 pm
by CIMANFOREVER
UlsterNo9 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:23 pm
Dave wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:17 pm
The 'losing to Leinster by less than Toulouse lost to Leinster' trophy will be Dan's greatest achievement.
He has a few wins also.
SUFTUM followed by "Can we play you every week" chants pouring out on the terrace.
None of us are happy losing to Leinster, it deeply sickens me, but they're in a golden era with an embarrassment of talent.
They've been in a golden era since 2008 especially against us.
However it's not just Leireland we've capitulated to- if it was, UR may be judged in a different light: but knock out defeats to Glasgow twice, Leicester, Stormers, add Sale capitulation to mediocrity, winning position Vs Toulouse, Munster at home, record collapses etc. Not just in Dan's time.
So sorry, final or bust. Beaten twice closely by Leireland and in a final by winning home knock out games we should win is bottom line. Or should we not strive towards a winning mentality and excellence?
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:00 pm
by StandUp
CIMANFOREVER wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 1:22 pm
UlsterNo9 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:23 pm
Dave wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:17 pm
The 'losing to Leinster by less than Toulouse lost to Leinster' trophy will be Dan's greatest achievement.
He has a few wins also.
SUFTUM followed by "Can we play you every week" chants pouring out on the terrace.
None of us are happy losing to Leinster, it deeply sickens me, but they're in a golden era with an embarrassment of talent.
They've been in a golden era since 2008 especially against us.
However it's not just Leireland we've capitulated to- if it was, UR may be judged in a different light: but knock out defeats to Glasgow twice, Leicester, Stormers, add Sale capitulation to mediocrity, winning position Vs Toulouse, Munster at home, record collapses etc. Not just in Dan's time.
So sorry, final or bust. Beaten twice closely by Leireland and in a final by winning home knock out games we should win is bottom line. Or should we not strive towards a winning mentality and excellence?
Exactly this. Good post CI.
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:06 pm
by jean valjean
Benneton getting tanked in Europe semi so connacht will be guaranteed Heineken cup next season.
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:10 pm
by big mervyn
jean valjean wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:06 pm
Benneton getting tanked in Europe semi so connacht will be guaranteed Heineken cup next season.
Not if Sharks win the URC.
Correct me if I'm wrong Neil
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:11 pm
by Neill_M
big mervyn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:10 pm
jean valjean wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:06 pm
Benneton getting tanked in Europe semi so connacht will be guaranteed Heineken cup next season.
Not if Sharks win the URC.
Correct me if I'm wrong Neil
By the book you are correct.
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:21 pm
by jean valjean
Neill_M wrote:big mervyn wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:10 pm
jean valjean wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:06 pm
Benneton getting tanked in Europe semi so connacht will be guaranteed Heineken cup next season.
Not if Sharks win the URC.
Correct me if I'm wrong Neil
By the book you are correct.
One step closer then 🫡. The sharks are so far away from winning it it is basically there. Suspect it will be confirmed next week.
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 2:24 pm
by big mervyn
Bulls' place is secured today.
It is theoretically possible to finish 3rd in the URC league and not qualify for the Heineken Cup.
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:12 pm
by Bobbievee
Dave wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:57 am
UlsterNo9 wrote:Dave wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:03 pm
A defeat to Connacht, is it still a successful season, discuss yes/no ..
We ran a fully loaded Leinster side playing at home in the Aviva closer than English champions Leicester and French giants Toulouse in the European Cup knockouts.... I say yes.
We were still within a beagles gowl up until 65 odd minutes, which is more than Toulouse with their all international lineup and massive budget can say.
Good answer
Doesn’t matter what else we did
A defeat to Connaught is a Horlix
The URC league shambles is only an income raising scam to decide who enters the real knockout competition at the end. Finishing second and not winning qf or sf would be a failure. BUT WE WONT!!
Re: Ulster v Connacht
Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2023 3:13 pm
by Bobbievee
Lose that is!