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Nadolo is something else. If I was a winger and I saw that thing on the opposite team I'd be getting aboard the Nope Train to Feckthatville.
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Anyone know former Ulster star Tim Boyes is still cutting grass as well as packing down beside Kieran Read for the Crusaders?

I hate doing the first cut of the year & wondered has anyone got his number so I can get a quote for the job?
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I've just had a thought.

We are all agreed that Super Rugby is a superior level than what we serve up in the NH. Ruadhri Murphy played down there and, although I didn't see him myself, he apparently was decent. Now, he can't get a game for Ulster. Is he actually useless, or does he just play a different way than the Ulster coaches want him to, i.e. Looks for offloads when the coaches want him to protect the ball?

Or am I just reading far too much into it?

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HairyJ wrote:I've just had a thought.

We are all agreed that Super Rugby is a superior level than what we serve up in the NH. Ruadhri Murphy played down there and, although I didn't see him myself, he apparently was decent. Now, he can't get a game for Ulster. Is he actually useless, or does he just play a different way than the Ulster coaches want him to, i.e. Looks for offloads when the coaches want him to protect the ball?

Or am I just reading far too much into it?

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Don't confuse a 'superior product/spectacle' with superior rugby.

It is different rugby and many here seem to enjoy watching it more, but it doesn't mean that SH players are better at playing rugby than NH players.
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Dave Murphy is an U20 Grand Slam winner too
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BR wrote:
HairyJ wrote:I've just had a thought.

We are all agreed that Super Rugby is a superior level than what we serve up in the NH. Ruadhri Murphy played down there and, although I didn't see him myself, he apparently was decent. Now, he can't get a game for Ulster. Is he actually useless, or does he just play a different way than the Ulster coaches want him to, i.e. Looks for offloads when the coaches want him to protect the ball?

Or am I just reading far too much into it?

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Don't confuse a 'superior product/spectacle' with superior rugby.

It is different rugby and many here seem to enjoy watching it more, but it doesn't mean that SH players are better at playing rugby than NH players.
That's it in a nutshell BR. Different conditions and different style of play.
If SH teams were playing in 4 degrees and sleet, their play might not be quite as slick either. Numerous players have gone from Super rugby to NH rugby and looked very ordinary or worse. Ma'a Nonu isn't exactly setting Toulon alight.
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Snipe Watson » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:07 pm

If SH teams were playing in 4 degrees and sleet, their play might not be quite as slick either.
Ummmm.... you mean like in New Zealand where they regularly play in April/May/June in howling wind, torrential rain and its as low as 3 degrees. Players have to sit on the bench wrapped in 3/4 blankets just to keep their core temperature up enough to function.

On the Murphy point, he wasnt/inst the best scrummager, he played well on the hard pitches of Aus in a league where the emphasis is on playing the ball and movement whereas here we play a much more tactical, forward dominant game where scrums are seen as genuine attacking weapons.

Two different approaches to the game, and in recent years the SH has been dominant over the NH. You have to go back to 2000-2003 to look at the last time a NH side was at the pinacle.
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fuzzylogic wrote:
Snipe Watson » Fri Mar 04, 2016 1:07 pm

If SH teams were playing in 4 degrees and sleet, their play might not be quite as slick either.
Ummmm.... you mean like in New Zealand where they regularly play in April/May/June in howling wind, torrential rain and its as low as 3 degrees. Players have to sit on the bench wrapped in 3/4 blankets just to keep their core temperature up enough to function.

On the Murphy point, he wasnt/inst the best scrummager, he played well on the hard pitches of Aus in a league where the emphasis is on playing the ball and movement whereas here we play a much more tactical, forward dominant game where scrums are seen as genuine attacking weapons.

Two different approaches to the game, and in recent years the SH has been dominant over the NH. You have to go back to 2000-2003 to look at the last time a NH side was at the pinacle.
For every game played in Invercargill or Dunedin there are many played in the north island in 70 degrees and sunshine. Christchurch is breezy, but the climate is better than we have. Conditions overhead and underfoot are considerably better. Skill sets in NZ are vastly superior to ours that's not in dispute.
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Short highlights from the Brumbies game

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Oh and full games here

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Even if we had a side who could chuck the ball around like a SH side once they would come up against a dross side playing at spoiling at every opportunity then they would get dragged into a dogfight, the Super Rugby needs both sides to play the same style before it becomes a spectator spectacle.
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The Melbourne Rebels are crap. I'd say we'd give them a game!
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The current game Bulls v Rebels is in many ways worse than the shyte we saw last night. At least Zebre were prepared to tackle but here on either side of halftime Rebels conceded 4 tries in 9 minutes before scoring 2 themselves in 4 minutes.

6 tries in 13 minutes of utter garbage. The sort of people who enjoy that should go and watch basketball. I hate non contact rugby, even if it was shyte last night, I'd prefer tackling rugby.

And there as I type is another try a few minutes later.
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BaggyTrousers wrote:The current game Bulls v Rebels is in many ways worse than the shyte we saw last night. At least Zebre were prepared to tackle but here on either side of halftime Rebels conceded 4 tries in 9 minutes before scoring 2 themselves in 4 minutes.

6 tries in 13 minutes of utter garbage. The sort of people who enjoy that should go and watch basketball. I hate non contact rugby, even if it was shyte last night, I'd prefer tackling rugby.

And there as I type is another try a few minutes later.
Cheers Baggy I have just logged on to post the very same. Missed tackles all over the shop and not through great attacking play befuddling defenders either, just simple bad technique. From both teams too.
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This should be good here.
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