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kingofthehill wrote:

Columbo wrote:

ColinM wrote:

Columbo wrote:I think Bryn is ok in his recruitment/management role - but not doing his own thing, I.e. within a proper framework driven by proper CEO and strong head coach

He is absolutely not a potential CEO. He has no relevant experience

What good recruitment did he do again? Did he sign any non cornerfleg clients?

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no this is what I mean by within a good framework - I think he’s technically fairly able, as in managing negotiations etc. I think the big thing that has been missing is no over-arching strategy - due to weak head coaches/CEO. So signing Piutau is an example of a smashing piece of recruitment for a club like Ulster - but also an example of a terrible piece of recruitment in the context of a club with limited resources that had plenty of good back 3 players, but had been crying out for back rows for years...

Anyone who remotely follows Ulster would know that ulster didn’t need to sign a back 3 player when piutau was signed.

Absolutely correct. His signing was a right head scratcher for me.





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Columbo wrote:

ColinM wrote:Any signs he can negotiate with people outside the esportif stable?

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i honestly don’t know, are all the guys he signed esportif? That is a very fair question though..

(And the esportif connections with Ulster are certainly a bit queasy)

Wee Woman wrote:Didn’t Cooney ask to come to Ulster?

Don’t think anyone can claim credit for that if it was instigated by Cooney himself.


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Cockatrice wrote:I think recruitment over the past four years has been less than good... from a big signing that we didn’t actually need to sub standard cast offs. It has left us with what we are told is a lack of core leadership and experience in key profile age groups which may take years to fix... this is incompetence and similar to the RHI scandal were no one is responsible.

Snipe Watson wrote:

Cockatrice wrote:I think recruitment over the past four years has been less than good... from a big signing that we didn’t actually need to sub standard cast offs. It has left us with what we are told is a lack of core leadership and experience in key profile age groups which may take years to fix... this is incompetence and similar to the RHI scandal were no one is responsible.

Part of that leadership vacuum must also be chalked down to the disastrous Longwell years in the academy. NIQ signings need to be much more strategic and far higher quality. Deysel may come good, but Hond is an embarrassment. If Marcell breaks again we send him back and Rodney needs to learn some professionalism. Hope if he is retained, it's on a pay for play contract.

Cockatrice wrote:

Snipe Watson wrote:

Cockatrice wrote:I think recruitment over the past four years has been less than good... from a big signing that we didn’t actually need to sub standard cast offs. It has left us with what we are told is a lack of core leadership and experience in key profile age groups which may take years to fix... this is incompetence and similar to the RHI scandal were no one is responsible.

Part of that leadership vacuum must also be chalked down to the disastrous Longwell years in the academy. NIQ signings need to be much more strategic and far higher quality. Deysel may come good, but Hond is an embarrassment. If Marcell breaks again we send him back and Rodney needs to learn some professionalism. Hope if he is retained, it's on a pay for play contract.

I agree that the Academy years were wasted under Longwell and as a result we have suffered... I have said for years that NIQs needed to be of higher standard frequently using Diack as the template only to be chastised. As for Deysel I could understand if this was some youngster coming through but at his age I would cut him loose now. With regard the HOND why is he still here and if there isn't as appears to be the case some clause that says we can't get rid of players then whoever is responsible needs to make changes... More props to go apparently and I hope Rodney is also out failed to live up to past promise elsewhere and lets move forward with O"Toole as he can only get better..

Cockatrice wrote:He's been there for 4 years so whatever your view it is certainly not one of giving him a chance as that for me is enough time to base an assessment of anyones performance on..

I would only have a slight concern if his business interest with another ex player who previously owned a well known sports agency hadn't been declared to UR in case it should represent a potential conflict of interest.

kingofthehill wrote:

Cockatrice wrote:

Snipe Watson wrote:

Cockatrice wrote:I think recruitment over the past four years has been less than good... from a big signing that we didn’t actually need to sub standard cast offs. It has left us with what we are told is a lack of core leadership and experience in key profile age groups which may take years to fix... this is incompetence and similar to the RHI scandal were no one is responsible.

Part of that leadership vacuum must also be chalked down to the disastrous Longwell years in the academy. NIQ signings need to be much more strategic and far higher quality. Deysel may come good, but Hond is an embarrassment. If Marcell breaks again we send him back and Rodney needs to learn some professionalism. Hope if he is retained, it's on a pay for play contract.

I agree that the Academy years were wasted under Longwell and as a result we have suffered... I have said for years that NIQs needed to be of higher standard frequently using Diack as the template only to be chastised. As for Deysel I could understand if this was some youngster coming through but at his age I would cut him loose now. With regard the HOND why is he still here and if there isn't as appears to be the case some clause that says we can't get rid of players then whoever is responsible needs to make changes... More props to go apparently and I hope Rodney is also out failed to live up to past promise elsewhere and lets move forward with O"Toole as he can only get better..

Hond signed a 2 year (poss 3 year) and has bought a farm in ballymena. Why would he care if he isn’t involved,he’s still getting paid a substantial amount of money.

Heard ulster branch trying to assign him to Omagh in the hope he might not enjoy Ulster as much and leave. These are not my words!!


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Cockatrice wrote:

kingofthehill wrote:

Cockatrice wrote:

Snipe Watson wrote: Part of that leadership vacuum must also be chalked down to the disastrous Longwell years in the academy. NIQ signings need to be much more strategic and far higher quality. Deysel may come good, but Hond is an embarrassment. If Marcell breaks again we send him back and Rodney needs to learn some professionalism. Hope if he is retained, it's on a pay for play contract.

I agree that the Academy years were wasted under Longwell and as a result we have suffered... I have said for years that NIQs needed to be of higher standard frequently using Diack as the template only to be chastised. As for Deysel I could understand if this was some youngster coming through but at his age I would cut him loose now. With regard the HOND why is he still here and if there isn't as appears to be the case some clause that says we can't get rid of players then whoever is responsible needs to make changes... More props to go apparently and I hope Rodney is also out failed to live up to past promise elsewhere and lets move forward with O"Toole as he can only get better..

Hond signed a 2 year (poss 3 year) and has bought a farm in ballymena. Why would he care if he isn’t involved,he’s still getting paid a substantial amount of money.

Heard ulster branch trying to assign him to Omagh in the hope he might not enjoy Ulster as much and leave. These are not my words!!


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No better example why there is something fundemently wrong with our recruitment process and our contract management as to how a player can come here hold down an NIQ in such key position, get paid a shyte load of money, run a hard manual business and remain unfit and unable to play.. the persons responsible need reviewed.

stickinout wrote:

Cockatrice wrote:

kingofthehill wrote:

Cockatrice wrote:

Snipe Watson wrote: Part of that leadership vacuum must also be chalked down to the disastrous Longwell years in the academy. NIQ signings need to be much more strategic and far higher quality. Deysel may come good, but Hond is an embarrassment. If Marcell breaks again we send him back and Rodney needs to learn some professionalism. Hope if he is retained, it's on a pay for play contract.

I agree that the Academy years were wasted under Longwell and as a result we have suffered... I have said for years that NIQs needed to be of higher standard frequently using Diack as the template only to be chastised. As for Deysel I could understand if this was some youngster coming through but at his age I would cut him loose now. With regard the HOND why is he still here and if there isn't as appears to be the case some clause that says we can't get rid of players then whoever is responsible needs to make changes... More props to go apparently and I hope Rodney is also out failed to live up to past promise elsewhere and lets move forward with O"Toole as he can only get better..

Hond signed a 2 year (poss 3 year) and has bought a farm in ballymena. Why would he care if he isn’t involved,he’s still getting paid a substantial amount of money.

Heard ulster branch trying to assign him to Omagh in the hope he might not enjoy Ulster as much and leave. These are not my words!!


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No better example why there is something fundemently wrong with our recruitment process and our contract management as to how a player can come here hold down an NIQ in such key position, get paid a shyte load of money, run a hard manual business and remain unfit and unable to play.. the persons responsible need reviewed.

Could UR not hire a private dick, get some telephoto shots of him humping bales, and get the contract nulled as we can prove he's riding us silly on the sick?