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UlsterNo9 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:32 pm
Dave wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:54 pm
UlsterNo9 wrote:Pitch was terrible last night.
Did it help the maul, yes/no, discuss...
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Cap'n Grumpy wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:25 am
UlsterNo9 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:32 pm
Dave wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:54 pm
UlsterNo9 wrote:Pitch was terrible last night.
Did it help the maul, yes/no, discuss...
You're not wrong pal.
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We can neither conform nor deny that it may be discussed or not discussed, maybe.
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Cap'n Grumpy wrote:
UlsterNo9 wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 9:32 pm
Dave wrote: Sat Apr 15, 2023 8:54 pm
UlsterNo9 wrote:Pitch was terrible last night.
Did it help the maul, yes/no, discuss...
You're not wrong pal.
He might be wrong - yes/no, discuss.
Even a broken clock can yes/no discuss....
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UlsterNo9 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:35 pm4G Cockers
Isn't 4G just rebadged 3G?
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jean valjean wrote:
Dave wrote:May as well get 5G. Future proof it.
5g causes cancer apparently, so no way.
Skip on to 6G.
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BR wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:21 am
UlsterNo9 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:35 pm4G Cockers
Isn't 4G just rebadged 3G?
In some ways, both are synthetic, however 3G pitches are sand and rubber filled whereas 4G does not have this fill.

4G is more like 5G and 6G in that the fill are not required.

One would automatically assume 4G is better than 3G, or 5G is better than 4G. This is not the case, it's very much horses for courses dependent on sporting requirements. It's not like the technology has moved on and something better is available as the numbers get higher, they're different designs.

4G requires less maintenance than 3G as the fill sand and rubber does not need replaced as it gets blown away / carried off in players crevices etc.

One big difference is that 3G is 100% World Rugby approved, 4G was not unless that has changed. I'd assume Ulster have done their homework.
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UlsterNo9 wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:27 pm
BR wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:21 am
UlsterNo9 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:35 pm4G Cockers
Isn't 4G just rebadged 3G?
In some ways, both are synthetic, however 3G pitches are sand and rubber filled whereas 4G does not have this fill.

4G is more like 5G and 6G in that the fill are not required.

One would automatically assume 4G is better than 3G, or 5G is better than 4G. This is not the case, it's very much horses for courses dependent on sporting requirements. It's not like the technology has moved on and something better is available as the numbers get higher, they're different designs.

4G requires less maintenance than 3G as the fill sand and rubber does not need replaced as it gets blown away / carried off in players crevices etc.

One big difference is that 3G is 100% World Rugby approved, 4G was not unless that has changed. I'd assume Ulster have done their homework.
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I think I had heard the term 4G used for simply a higher quality/slightly tweaked rubber filled system - but that was many years ago. From what you say, it sounds like they have since developed a genuine different system using that term.
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UlsterNo9 wrote:
BR wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:21 am
UlsterNo9 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:35 pm4G Cockers
Isn't 4G just rebadged 3G?
In some ways, both are synthetic, however 3G pitches are sand and rubber filled whereas 4G does not have this fill.

4G is more like 5G and 6G in that the fill are not required.

One would automatically assume 4G is better than 3G, or 5G is better than 4G. This is not the case, it's very much horses for courses dependent on sporting requirements. It's not like the technology has moved on and something better is available as the numbers get higher, they're different designs.

4G requires less maintenance than 3G as the fill sand and rubber does not need replaced as it gets blown away / carried off in players crevices etc.

One big difference is that 3G is 100% World Rugby approved, 4G was not unless that has changed. I'd assume Ulster have done their homework.
How does the partial synthetic pitch work then? Have heard of a mix of plastic and grass ( thormond park/ Rodney parade?) always looks more natural and doesn't get cut up. Why wouldn't ulster go for that?
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jean valjean wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 7:55 pm
UlsterNo9 wrote:
BR wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 11:21 am
UlsterNo9 wrote: Mon Apr 24, 2023 10:35 pm4G Cockers
Isn't 4G just rebadged 3G?
In some ways, both are synthetic, however 3G pitches are sand and rubber filled whereas 4G does not have this fill.

4G is more like 5G and 6G in that the fill are not required.

One would automatically assume 4G is better than 3G, or 5G is better than 4G. This is not the case, it's very much horses for courses dependent on sporting requirements. It's not like the technology has moved on and something better is available as the numbers get higher, they're different designs.

4G requires less maintenance than 3G as the fill sand and rubber does not need replaced as it gets blown away / carried off in players crevices etc.

One big difference is that 3G is 100% World Rugby approved, 4G was not unless that has changed. I'd assume Ulster have done their homework.
How does the partial synthetic pitch work then? Have heard of a mix of plastic and grass ( thormond park/ Rodney parade?) always looks more natural and doesn't get cut up. Why wouldn't ulster go for that?
From what I understand (which is limited). All of the installation cost of artificial, all the maintenance costs of grass (in fact more??) , durability improved over grass, but not to the level of artificial.
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UlsterNo9 wrote: I'd assume Ulster have done their homework.
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Dave wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:41 pm
UlsterNo9 wrote: I'd assume Ulster have done their homework.
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Sorry made mistake it’s 3G that’s official …. But B&M on Cregagh Road supplying

Obviously elsewhere there are concerns

https://www.pitchcare.com/news-media/3g ... risis.html
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Deraless wrote:
Dave wrote: Tue Apr 25, 2023 8:41 pm
UlsterNo9 wrote: I'd assume Ulster have done their homework.
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Planning application has gone in naming a 3G surface.

Ulster rugby website press release had stated 4G, along with BBC and Bel Tel articles.

Relief it is 3G as 4G isn't suitable for rugby.
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UlsterNo9 wrote:Planning application has gone in naming a 3G surface.

Ulster rugby website press release had stated 4G, along with BBC and Bel Tel articles.

Relief it is 3G as 4G isn't suitable for rugby.
Planning application only in now? And they expect to have approval for new season?
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