Positives and Negatives: Ulster V Leinster

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Positives and Negatives: Ulster V Leinster

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Positives
- a cracking night's entertainment: a full house, two competitive sides and some end to end action. Great way to finish up before Christmas
- a win over Leinster - another monkey off our backs.
- scrum time. Lost us the game last week, won us the game this week. Scrum time is so critical at the minute. It's a penalty-generating machine. How many games have we won this season due to Afoa alone - 3 at least I'd reckon. Penalised harshly at the first scrum but Rory pointed out that the tighty was all over the place and from then on it was easy street.
- lineout. No Muller had me worried but the big men did well overall. I thought big McComb had a super game. I thought he should have slotted in with Tuohy last week, with Hendo at 6.
- Williams. I'm not a fan of Williams but tonight he was superb. As far as I could see he did not off-load all night but he didn't need to. He carried superbly, he controlled the back of the scrum and he worked at the breakdown. Stunning display from the big 8.
- Pack. The pack took the game to Leinster and fought all night. It would have been very easy to target the leinster backline and throw stupid passes wide all night but we took leinster head on up front. We fought at the breakdown and protected the ball reasonably well whilst in posession.
- Ruan stepped up to the goal-kicking duties when required.
- Trimble try with 14 men. Delightful.

Negatives
- Goal-kicking for the 3rd game in the bounce was not up to standard. Ruan stepped up to the mark but i thought Ruan should have been kicking last week.
- kicking game was verging on appalling. Ruan is usually on a sixpence with his box-kicks but tonight there were terrible. Unless it was a tactic to kick in-field but I very much doubt it. Gave the chasers no chance whatsoever.
- re-starts still not great. When kicking, we just chipped to the the 7 ft giant toner who was getting lifted to 10ft..... and we struggled a bit as usual when recieving.
- a few too many penalties at the breakdown. Needed to roll away a bit quicker which eventually led to a cheap yellow.

Overall, a really enjoyable game and an even more enjoyable result.

It's now time to get the Ravens on the bus to Limerick and rest a few limbs for Europe. We righted the wrongs of last week and have shown that we genuinely are contenders. Now it's time to start building for glasgow.

Merry Christmas folks.... >happyparty
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+ves
Our back row outplayed theirs- pretty sure Heaslip was playing but only really knew cause of the team sheet at the start.
Great number of turnovers - should have been more if that numpty had spotted baby-faced Hendo doing the hard work.
Second rows didn't look out of place- say what you like about Cullen but he's a tough opponent - sure it was never n doubt!
Scrum was phenomenal

-ves
I'm not being picky when we've beaten current Euro. champs- job done thanks. Not going to dwell on the negatives. Maybe a bit of a shame Macklin didn't get 10- 15 mins.

Cheers lads for some reward after all the years of crap we've had to endure- the future's bright the future's white!
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Positives
Bounced back after last week
Scrum
Outplayed a good experienced ,streetwise pack
Third try
Kept our cool despite some strange decisions by the ref(was it Clancy or Cullen)
Hopefully NO injuries

Negatives
Kicking Game

PS Happy Christmas to All at UR & UAFC
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Our pack were magnificent tonight.

Rory should have known better. He put a load of unnecessary pressure on the rest of the team.
PJ needs a confidence boost.
Halfbacks did not kick well, either of them.
Why can we not have a simple, workable plan for taking restarts?
Our lineout is far from bulletproof.
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Re: last point about Best. I've came home and watched the replay, what did you seriously expect him to do? It was an awful decision by the referee and, in my opinion, no blame can be put on Best.
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Snipe Watson wrote:Our pack were magnificent tonight.

Rory should have known better. He put a load of unnecessary pressure on the rest of the team.
PJ needs a confidence boost.
Halfbacks did not kick well, either of them.
Why can we not have a simple, workable plan for taking restarts?
Our lineout is far from bulletproof.

I thought Rory was a bit unlucky as he had a lump of a man pinned on top of his legs, but these yellows are given.

A simple plan for restarts for me would be the big men grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck and making the ball theirs. NMcC took a great one after the one that was fluffed, got high and made the ball his. Madigan's drop kick is a thing of beauty, i wonder if restarts practice includes catching to a variety of drop out styles? You'd think so wouldn't you?

The lineout was a patch up job, did the job tonight. Hopefully it'll stand to our new look second row for next week.
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Snipe Watson wrote:Our pack were magnificent tonight.

Rory should have known better. He put a load of unnecessary pressure on the rest of the team.
PJ needs a confidence boost.
Halfbacks did not kick well, either of them.
Why can we not have a simple, workable plan for taking restarts?
Our lineout is far from bulletproof.
Seriously you think that was a fair penalty never mind a yellow card? At the match it was a wtf moment even from, he leinster supporters beside me- giving it a yellow was a travesty. So thanks mr clancey you did your best there but please don't come back
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Decent win but we can play better.

I'd give Jackson the week off next week and go for a PM/RP 9/10 axis again, our backs looked more switched on with Pienaar at out half. Although saying that, Pienaar is due a rest as well.....
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breakdown wrote:Decent win but we can play better.

I'd give Jackson the week off next week and go for a PM/RP 9/10 axis again, our backs looked more switched on with Pienaar at out half. Although saying that, Pienaar is due a rest as well.....
I don't think young Percy needs a week off. He tackles like 1f and brings our line forward every time. The sights are a little squinty at the moment but he will come good. Well played lads - hopefully you are out getting blocked and spanked again. You deserve it
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Thelaw wrote:
breakdown wrote:Decent win but we can play better.

I'd give Jackson the week off next week and go for a PM/RP 9/10 axis again, our backs looked more switched on with Pienaar at out half. Although saying that, Pienaar is due a rest as well.....
I don't think young Percy needs a week off. He tackles like 1f and brings our line forward every time. The sights are a little squinty at the moment but he will come good. Well played lads - hopefully you are out getting blocked and spanked again. You deserve it
3 days kicking practice and 3 days of Ruan throwing balls in front of him will be enough training for him this week
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Positives- result, dominant pack, Luke marshall looks like the real deal.

Negatives- pj should have been replaced 10 minutes earlier than he was.
Darren cave wasn't at the races at all.
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What Russ and TheLaw said. +1
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tommyblue wrote:Positives- result, dominant pack, Luke marshall looks like the real deal.

Negatives- pj should have been replaced 10 minutes earlier than he was.
Darren cave wasn't at the races at all.
Agree re: Luke, he was very impressive tonight.

PJ has been magnificent for us so far in his short career. He is having a little bit of an off patch but that has to be expected of someone at his stage. He also may have been carrying that dead leg from last week.

Cave had a vomiting bug all week. I thought he played ok, didn't dominate as he can do but strongly disagree with the suggestion he "wasn't at the races at all". On what basis do you make that assertion?
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promsandwich wrote:
tommyblue wrote:Positives- result, dominant pack, Luke marshall looks like the real deal.

Negatives- pj should have been replaced 10 minutes earlier than he was.
Darren cave wasn't at the races at all.
Agree re: Luke, he was very impressive tonight.

PJ has been magnificent for us so far in his short career. He is having a little bit of an off patch but that has to be expected of someone at his stage. He also may have been carrying that dead leg from last week.

Cave had a vomiting bug all week. I thought he played ok, didn't dominate as he can do but strongly disagree with the suggestion he "wasn't at the races at all". On what basis do you make that assertion?
I re-watched the game this morning, I think it's safe to say he wasn't at the race!!!
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