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French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Wed May 25, 2016 12:44 pm
by Neill_M
Jeremy Davidson's Aurillac are in the ProD2 playoffs this week and host Mont-de-Marsan.

The other semi final sees Bayonne play Colomiers. The final is next week in Toulouse and the winner will join Lyon in the Top 14 next year.

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 5:47 pm
by scrum5
News coming out of France that Biarritz, Bourgoin and Narbonne have been relegated to PRO D2 for financial irregularities

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Fri May 27, 2016 7:41 pm
by Neill_M
scrum5 wrote:News coming out of France that Biarritz, Bourgoin and Narbonne have been relegated to PRO D2 for financial irregularities
All 3 have been relegated from Pro D2 into the 3rd tier Federale 1 (pending an appeal). Pretty bad for Biarritz, considering their big rivals Bayonne have a chance of getting back into the Top 14.

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 8:35 pm
by Neill_M
Aurillac won 28-13 today, into the final. Will play Bayonne who beat Colomiers 28-16 today (Sun).

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Sat May 28, 2016 9:07 pm
by Russ
Neill_M wrote:Aurillac won 28-13 today, into the final.
SUFTUM

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:44 pm
by Neill_M
Pro 12 finished so below is a closer look at the Top 14 with it entering its last round of games (Sun night - 7:45 pm KO) and who needs what etc:

1st Clermont 83 pts - Already guaranteed a bye week for the QFs of the playoffs, a win will see them finish top of the pile and play the winners of the 4th/5th placed sides. A top seeding would make them a Pot 2 side at worst in the Euro Draw

2nd Montpellier 81 pts – Need a draw to guarantee a Top 2 finish and get next weekend off. If they do this – will play the winners of the 3rd/6th placed sides. Otherwise, could slip as low as 4th if things go south on Sun.

3rd Racing 92 77 pts – Need 1 pt to secure home advantage in the QFs. Still in with a chance of finishing 2nd. Currently ahead of Toulon on head to head record.

4th Toulon 77 pts - Need a draw to secure home advantage in the QFs. Still in with a chance of finishing 2nd.

5th Toulouse 73 pts – Cannot be caught by 6th, need a BP win to have any chance of home advantage in the QFs.

6th Castres 67 pts – Need to match Bordeaux in terms of match points to secure the last spot. Currently ahead of Bordeaux on head to head record.

7th Bordeaux 67 pts – Need to beat Castres in terms of match points to secure the last spot. The 7th team will go into Pot 4 of the Euro Draw.

Clermont v La Rochelle
Racing 92 v Montpellier
Toulon v Bordeaux
Castres v Stade Francais
Grenoble v Toulouse

SS2 and TV5 Monde (796) both showing games on Sun Night.

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:10 pm
by BR
Neill_M wrote:
3rd Racing 92 77 ... Currently ahead of Toulon on head to head record.
Are you sure? I have them behind RCT based on their abysmal points difference.

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:09 pm
by Neill_M
BR wrote:
Neill_M wrote:
3rd Racing 92 77 ... Currently ahead of Toulon on head to head record.
Are you sure? I have them behind RCT based on their abysmal points difference.
Top 14 different. Head to head between the sides is accounted for 1st. Both won away v each other. Both got 5 match points from the 2 games, but racing won by 5 pts and toulon by only 1Image

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Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:10 pm
by Neill_M
Same reason why castres are sitting above bordeaux etc

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Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:31 pm
by BR
Neill_M wrote:
BR wrote:
Neill_M wrote:
3rd Racing 92 77 ... Currently ahead of Toulon on head to head record.
Are you sure? I have them behind RCT based on their abysmal points difference.
Top 14 different. Head to head between the sides is accounted for 1st. Both won away v each other. Both got 5 match points from the 2 games, but racing won by 5 pts and toulon by only 1Image

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Thought it was h2h Pts first (as you say 5 each) but then league pd (RCT are +200) and only then h2h pd.

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:46 pm
by Neill_M
Wikipedia that source which is never wrong....has overall pts difference at no 4. No 2 h2h pd then h2h try difference!

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Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:48 pm
by BR
Neill_M wrote:Wikipedia that source which is never wrong....has overall pts difference at no 4. No 2 h2h pd then h2h try difference!

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Hey, if Wikipedia says so, I'll not argue.

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:17 pm
by BR
BR wrote:
Neill_M wrote:Wikipedia that source which is never wrong....has overall pts difference at no 4. No 2 h2h pd then h2h try difference!

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Hey, if Wikipedia says so, I'll not argue.
French papers might though:

http://www.lerugbynistere.fr/news/top-1 ... 161353.php

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:26 pm
by mikerob
This is what the LNR themselves say.

http://www.lnr.fr/rugby-top-14/classeme ... ip-rules-3

My French is lousy so I won't try to translate.

Re: French Rugby Barrage 15/16

Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2016 12:50 pm
by BR
mikerob wrote:This is what the LNR themselves say.

http://www.lnr.fr/rugby-top-14/classeme ... ip-rules-3

My French is lousy so I won't try to translate.
The bold bit is the relevant bit.