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CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Tue May 12, 2020 10:57 pm
by Bobbievee
Anyone log into the virtual briefing session for ST holders on Monday night past?
I was registered to participate but couldn't.
Any feedback from anyone?

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:06 am
by cardoc
Is it possible to get a recording of the interview, has anyone got a copy that they would post here or can it be downloaded from somewhere?

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:17 pm
by Bobbievee
I checked with UR today. They are working on a video version that "will be on the UR site shortly"
I am confident that any awkward questions or silences will not be edited out!!

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 11:31 pm
by Bobbievee
I had asked whether it was reasonable to expect premium ST holders to pay £500 to watch Ulster B team for 8-10 weeks per year whilst our best players were on" international duty" ( an interesting phrase when you think of it), but not actually in the matchday 23, but also not available to UR.........and the fans who pay their wages. Sitting around in training camps in Dublin.
Interesting to see if that question survives the IRFU PR machine.

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:00 am
by damianmcr
Well it shouldn't. It's a ridiculous question. Firstly you'd know this was the case before even buying your ticket.

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:21 pm
by Bobbievee
But depending on the answer , might not buy one next year
And they should know that
And I am not the only one

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:22 pm
by Bobbievee

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:29 pm
by damianmcr
Bobbievee wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 4:21 pm But depending on the answer , might not buy one next year
And they should know that
And I am not the only one
Why would you suddenly change your mind around this? Why did you get one last year?

Ulster have always lost a few players to Ireland.

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 4:43 pm
by Bobbievee
I am delighted when Ulster players play for Ireland. My point is that those who are called to the Ireland camp who are never realistically going to be in the match day 23 , make up training sessions, sit around in Dublin, and are not released back to Ulster in time .......with the knock on UR not releasing players back to clubs.
And yes I did get one last year and watched too many mediocre matches between Ulster B and weak travelling teams. Release from international duties or a radically changed Pro14 format is required.

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 5:18 pm
by rumncoke
Bobby

You buy a season ticket to watch a team, not players. The best game to watch last year was Leinster v Ulster when most of the players on Ireland call up were missing from both sides.

Frequently when teams are playing their strongest sides the game becomes boring because both sides stop each other from being creative and it is like watching two bulls charging at each other waiting for the other to wilt.

The best way to think of such games is to consider the players missing to be injured or recovering from injury or resting their bruises . The games provide an opportunity to assess the strength in depth and options which might have to exercised in more important games when the team will be facing a full strength opposition.

It also provides a window for Academy players who may find their opportunities at Ulster are being blocked who by their exposure in those games are given the opportunity to play elsewhere.

The quality of a game as spectacle depends not so much on individual players as to the attitude of the team and the coach, are you playing to win or are you playing not to lose there is a time and place each and both attitudes are valid but neither is chosen due to team selection but more by location and opposition.

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 5:21 pm
by damianmcr
Bobbievee wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 4:43 pm I am delighted when Ulster players play for Ireland. My point is that those who are called to the Ireland camp who are never realistically going to be in the match day 23 , make up training sessions, sit around in Dublin, and are not released back to Ulster in time .......with the knock on UR not releasing players back to clubs.
And yes I did get one last year and watched too many mediocre matches between Ulster B and weak travelling teams. Release from international duties or a radically changed Pro14 format is required.
Is this your first year watching Ulster or rugby in general during a international window?

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:17 pm
by Kofi Annan
So as the 19/20 season is over, when are season ticket holders getting a refund ,

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:58 pm
by Aird
Two points firstly the Ulster players are not released back to the clubs in the current circumstances they are on loan from their employers Ulster Rugby. Time has moved on from the amateur days when clubs were supplying amateur players to Ulster.
I can remember at least one prominent Heiniken Cup winner who played for Ulster on a Friday night and played for his home club for a half on the Saturday.
Secondly the CEO made it quite clear during the Forum that as the Pro14 had only been suspended ,not cancelled as yet they were not in a position to deal with the Season Tickets.

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:11 pm
by big mervyn
Can't see it meself, but there is talk about finishing it in Aug/Sep - 2 conference games against Irish opposition and then the ko stages.

Re: CEO and Coach briefing 11 may

Posted: Thu May 14, 2020 10:55 pm
by UlsterNo9
big mervyn wrote: Thu May 14, 2020 9:11 pm Can't see it meself, but there is talk about finishing it in Aug/Sep - 2 conference games against Irish opposition and then the ko stages.
Would agree with you Merv and if those games do go ahead they'll almost certainly be played behind closed doors, no fans.

As for refunds mentioned above I'll not be pursuing mine, hopefully my small contribution will help Ulster Rugby get going again. I've been lucky to not suffer financially from this whole Covid-19 debacle appreciate others are not in the same boat.