Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
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Having been on the Ulster roller coaster for more years than I care to remember last night was a microcosm of all of those years elation, excitement, shock, fear and squeaky bum time. We won with well established international players missing and an inexperienced bench,not a weak bench, as many of the young players we have serving up the rugby we now delight in were once the inexperienced benchers. We have been told by management and others about the skill base of young players coming through the system let’s have faith and encourage after all how would other teams have managed with so many core internationals missing for major tournaments.
Finally I with others have been critical of Billy Burns in the past but last night he was targeted by Clermont he took the tackles and played a great game as a passing not a kicking out half. Maybe he has something in him I didn’t see but our coaching team did thus his contract extension?
Looking forward to our next game to see what part of the roller coaster track we are on!!!!
Finally I with others have been critical of Billy Burns in the past but last night he was targeted by Clermont he took the tackles and played a great game as a passing not a kicking out half. Maybe he has something in him I didn’t see but our coaching team did thus his contract extension?
Looking forward to our next game to see what part of the roller coaster track we are on!!!!
Re: Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
Ulster were leading 17-12 at half time, Clermont got their points due to stupid penalty’s conceded IMO, not through their own endeavour.
Re: Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
The replacements that I'm most critical of last night are Carter, Jones and Shanahan. They can hardly be regarded as in inexperienced but by God, they were shocking. Carter's missed tackle in the lead up to Clermont's 1st try was embarrassing for a pro player. He ran passed the ball carrier and flopped onto the ground like a beached whale. For the push over try, he joined the maul in the side where he was never going to have any impact in halting the drive. Shanahan plundered at the back of every ruck waving his arms and looking all around him like a school kid having his dinner money stolen. Just get the feckin ball out ffsskiboo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:41 am Having been on the Ulster roller coaster for more years than I care to remember last night was a microcosm of all of those years elation, excitement, shock, fear and squeaky bum time. We won with well established international players missing and an inexperienced bench,not a weak bench, as many of the young players we have serving up the rugby we now delight in were once the inexperienced benchers. We have been told by management and others about the skill base of young players coming through the system let’s have faith and encourage after all how would other teams have managed with so many core internationals missing for major tournaments.
The "inexperienced" players were a joy to watch. Doak, Curtis, McIlroy., Rea, Baloucoune and Lowry had fantastic games. Some of the guys who joined later should get a huge boot up the Brennan tomorrow in training.
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Re: Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
A soul restoring 50 minutes sitting back whiskey in hand ( I'm meant to be off the alcohol at the moment Medically ) relaxed and then what was a well won game was nearly lost . Clermont looked out on their feet hoping a muscular wing could break through when suddenly they spring back 3 trys in nearly the same amount of the in minutes .
It was nearly time for another the only saving grace I give the forwards was after the third try they got together with two minutes to go and decided what they needed to do and did it -- stuck the ball up the jersey and ensure they didn't give a penalty so for the last two minutes thanks you subs --- but sitting waiting for a penalty to given was sore on the buttocks.
It was proof positive of why subs shouldn't hold tackle bags --- they should be hitting them ---especially during the match .
It was nearly time for another the only saving grace I give the forwards was after the third try they got together with two minutes to go and decided what they needed to do and did it -- stuck the ball up the jersey and ensure they didn't give a penalty so for the last two minutes thanks you subs --- but sitting waiting for a penalty to given was sore on the buttocks.
It was proof positive of why subs shouldn't hold tackle bags --- they should be hitting them ---especially during the match .
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Re: Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
I can see the logic if bringing fresh forwards on, albeit of lesser ability, but I struggle with subbing Doak in the last 2 games.eeyore wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:09 amThe replacements that I'm most critical of last night are Carter, Jones and Shanahan. They can hardly be regarded as in inexperienced but by God, they were shocking. Carter's missed tackle in the lead up to Clermont's 1st try was embarrassing for a pro player. He ran passed the ball carrier and flopped onto the ground like a beached whale. For the push over try, he joined the maul in the side where he was never going to have any impact in halting the drive. Shanahan plundered at the back of every ruck waving his arms and looking all around him like a school kid having his dinner money stolen. Just get the feckin ball out ffsskiboo wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:41 am Having been on the Ulster roller coaster for more years than I care to remember last night was a microcosm of all of those years elation, excitement, shock, fear and squeaky bum time. We won with well established international players missing and an inexperienced bench,not a weak bench, as many of the young players we have serving up the rugby we now delight in were once the inexperienced benchers. We have been told by management and others about the skill base of young players coming through the system let’s have faith and encourage after all how would other teams have managed with so many core internationals missing for major tournaments.
The "inexperienced" players were a joy to watch. Doak, Curtis, McIlroy., Rea, Baloucoune and Lowry had fantastic games. Some of the guys who joined later should get a huge boot up the Brennan tomorrow in training.
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Re: Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
My only thoughts on that are that with Cooney injured and the match (presumed) already won, Dan was protecting him.big mervyn wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:53 am I can see the logic if bringing fresh forwards on, albeit of lesser ability, but I struggle with subbing Doak in the last 2 games.
Why keep him on for any more time than necessary in which he could be injured and then we're down to the bare bones for matches coming up?
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Re: Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
Fair point but what all those SHs that Austin Healey was going on about last week?Cap'n Grumpy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:04 pmMy only thoughts on that are that with Cooney injured and the match (presumed) already won, Dan was protecting him.big mervyn wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:53 am I can see the logic if bringing fresh forwards on, albeit of lesser ability, but I struggle with subbing Doak in the last 2 games.
Why keep him on for any more time than necessary in which he could be injured and then we're down to the bare bones for matches coming up?
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Good question. I didn't hear him going on about SHs last week - I try not to hear him any time - but I found myself agreeing with him on the Quins v Castres match the other night when Mike Adamson had a disaster reffing, and cost Castres the game and qualification for the round of 16.big mervyn wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:16 pmFair point but what all those SHs that Austin Healey was going on about last week?Cap'n Grumpy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:04 pmMy only thoughts on that are that with Cooney injured and the match (presumed) already won, Dan was protecting him.big mervyn wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:53 am I can see the logic if bringing fresh forwards on, albeit of lesser ability, but I struggle with subbing Doak in the last 2 games.
Why keep him on for any more time than necessary in which he could be injured and then we're down to the bare bones for matches coming up?
I've been trying to console myself by thinking that it's him that's agreeing with me, but it just seems wrong to think the same as him. I feel unclean.
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Re: Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
He said Doak might have to leave Ulster because there were too many SHs impeding his progress hereCap'n Grumpy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:17 pmGood question. I didn't hear him going on about SHs last week - I try not to hear him any time - but I found myself agreeing with him on the Quins v Castres match the other night when Mike Adamson had a disaster reffing, and cost Castres the game and qualification for the round of 16.big mervyn wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:16 pmFair point but what all those SHs that Austin Healey was going on about last week?Cap'n Grumpy wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:04 pmMy only thoughts on that are that with Cooney injured and the match (presumed) already won, Dan was protecting him.big mervyn wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:53 am I can see the logic if bringing fresh forwards on, albeit of lesser ability, but I struggle with subbing Doak in the last 2 games.
Why keep him on for any more time than necessary in which he could be injured and then we're down to the bare bones for matches coming up?
I've been trying to console myself by thinking that it's him that's agreeing with me, but it just seems wrong to think the same as him. I feel unclean.
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Cheers for that.big mervyn wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 4:32 pm He said Doak might have to leave Ulster because there were too many SHs impeding his progress here
The status quo has been restored.
Healey talks cr@p
I feel clean again . . . even if that was last week and he agreed with me this week! Even a stopped clock is right twice a day
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Re: Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
Think Ulster have played 7 games since the Connacht debacle with a 5-2 win/loss ratio which overall is pretty decent albeit the 2 league defeats make things tight.
I think ulster have been the dominant team in those 7 games which is very positive and would have been an unlikely scenario even a year or so ago. We have hardened as a team and now pose much more of a threat.
The inability to make this really count has been evident by the close finishes we have had when winning or defeats . In 6/7 we should gave been further ahead and then the complexion changed after some late scoring by the opposition.
Last night was different as for once we built a decent lead of more than 3 converted tries. The concern here was the inability to protect such a big lead whereas the problem in the others was not creating a big enough lead to reflect our dominance in the first place.
Similar ending but different stories.
I think ulster have been the dominant team in those 7 games which is very positive and would have been an unlikely scenario even a year or so ago. We have hardened as a team and now pose much more of a threat.
The inability to make this really count has been evident by the close finishes we have had when winning or defeats . In 6/7 we should gave been further ahead and then the complexion changed after some late scoring by the opposition.
Last night was different as for once we built a decent lead of more than 3 converted tries. The concern here was the inability to protect such a big lead whereas the problem in the others was not creating a big enough lead to reflect our dominance in the first place.
Similar ending but different stories.
Re: Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
I think I'm right in saying that in our six previous matches the opposition have been the team to finish with the last score. Maybe not Clermont away, but we did give up a 17-0 lead there.
Would be intesting to know how many points we scored versus conceding in the last quarter of those games.
Would be intesting to know how many points we scored versus conceding in the last quarter of those games.
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I enjoyed the game
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Re: Ulster v Clermont Sat Jan 22 5:30pm BT Sport 3
Don’t remember much of it though.
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That’s not surprising your to busy calculating the numbers days lest we forget
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