CIMANFOREVER wrote:Moore is such a smart player. Stewart, Sheridan and McCann young bulls. How is Jones near the squad with these two capable of playing 6?
I thought Flannery inventive and definitely worth persevering with.
Mcilroy caught stone cold shooting up for Sharks last try. Shocker
Jones is in because of his lineout. That’s were Mccann struggles.
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It's a poor trade off King. These days lifters can basically hoist anyone. Or McCann lifts. All back 5 should lift now they get extra height in the lift over the traditional props. Pretty interchangeable.
Look at AOC, not a big lock but pretty much guaranteed at the front. That's where I'd lift McCann- fast and flat with his bulk. It's trainable- timing and technique.
I’m not disagreeing with you but I’m telling you the reason.
thecrouch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:17 am
I think the frustration comes from the fact that it's very rare to see a player at this level so poor at pretty much every single basic element of the game. If Sexton wasn't really, really fast he wouldn't be within a sniff of pro rugby, that's how unremarkable his other attributes are. Running with the ball in the wrong hand, dropping simple enough passes, not good under the high ball, no footwork whatsoever, weak tackling, it's worrying.
He needs to improve his rugby and improve it fast if he wants a career at Ulster.
That's a very cruel post. The young lad gave up a highly promising athletic career to join Ulster Rugby. Give him another season to see how he gets on.
The last thing a young lad needs is someone like you coming on here and annihilating him. We will see how he gets on after an extended run of games.
I doubt the lad cares what I say on here, but I am not writing him off or annihilating him, nor trying to be cruel.
We can't beat around the bush and fluff it up, his basics are poor and that's the unfortunate reality. McFarland has been very slow to introduce him to the team and we can see why, he's not there yet.
He's 22, so he's young, but IMO he's behind the curve of where you'd expect someone on the fringes of the senior team to be.
CIMANFOREVER wrote:Moore is such a smart player. Stewart, Sheridan and McCann young bulls. How is Jones near the squad with these two capable of playing 6?
I thought Flannery inventive and definitely worth persevering with.
Mcilroy caught stone cold shooting up for Sharks last try. Shocker
Jones is in because of his lineout. That’s were Mccann struggles.
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It's a poor trade off King. These days lifters can basically hoist anyone. Or McCann lifts. All back 5 should lift now they get extra height in the lift over the traditional props. Pretty interchangeable.
Look at AOC, not a big lock but pretty much guaranteed at the front. That's where I'd lift McCann- fast and flat with his bulk. It's trainable- timing and technique.
I’m not disagreeing with you but I’m telling you the reason.
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Didn't say you were- just pointing out it's a specious argument by UR if that's the case- and I defer to your inside knowledge. Nothing surprises me about this management team tbh.
thecrouch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:17 am
I think the frustration comes from the fact that it's very rare to see a player at this level so poor at pretty much every single basic element of the game. If Sexton wasn't really, really fast he wouldn't be within a sniff of pro rugby, that's how unremarkable his other attributes are. Running with the ball in the wrong hand, dropping simple enough passes, not good under the high ball, no footwork whatsoever, weak tackling, it's worrying.
He needs to improve his rugby and improve it fast if he wants a career at Ulster.
That's a very cruel post. The young lad gave up a highly promising athletic career to join Ulster Rugby. Give him another season to see how he gets on.
The last thing a young lad needs is someone like you coming on here and annihilating him. We will see how he gets on after an extended run of games.
I doubt the lad cares what I say on here, but I am not writing him off or annihilating him, nor trying to be cruel.
We can't beat around the bush and fluff it up, his basics are poor and that's the unfortunate reality. McFarland has been very slow to introduce him to the team and we can see why, he's not there yet.
He's 22, so he's young, but IMO he's behind the curve of where you'd expect someone on the fringes of the senior team to be.
You annihilated him. Every single word was detrimental. If I was an impressionable 22 year old lad and read that I would be utterly deflated.
thecrouch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:17 am
I think the frustration comes from the fact that it's very rare to see a player at this level so poor at pretty much every single basic element of the game. If Sexton wasn't really, really fast he wouldn't be within a sniff of pro rugby, that's how unremarkable his other attributes are. Running with the ball in the wrong hand, dropping simple enough passes, not good under the high ball, no footwork whatsoever, weak tackling, it's worrying.
He needs to improve his rugby and improve it fast if he wants a career at Ulster.
That's a very cruel post. The young lad gave up a highly promising athletic career to join Ulster Rugby. Give him another season to see how he gets on.
The last thing a young lad needs is someone like you coming on here and annihilating him. We will see how he gets on after an extended run of games.
I doubt the lad cares what I say on here, but I am not writing him off or annihilating him, nor trying to be cruel.
We can't beat around the bush and fluff it up, his basics are poor and that's the unfortunate reality. McFarland has been very slow to introduce him to the team and we can see why, he's not there yet.
He's 22, so he's young, but IMO he's behind the curve of where you'd expect someone on the fringes of the senior team to be.
You annihilated him. Every single word was detrimental. If I was an impressionable 22 year old lad and read that I would be utterly deflated.
There’s an argument to say that if he’s an impressionable 22 year old lad and deflated then he’s never gonna make it.
Many successful guys get there on the back of proving people wrong.
justinr73 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 pm
There’s an argument to say that if he’s an impressionable 22 year old lad and deflated then he’s never gonna make it.
Many successful guys get there on the back of proving people wrong.
I'd also add if there's a professional rugby player reading this forum it's not just his rugby attributes that needs brought into question
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I could have been a pro, but I wasn't near good enough. I'm also very unprofessional in most aspects of life. I still read a bit on here. So take from that what you will. Just the shorter posts, though.
Dave wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:49 pm
I could have been a pro, but I wasn't near good enough. I'm also very unprofessional in most aspects of life. I still read a bit on here. So take from that what you will. Just the shorter posts, though.
"Wasn't near good enough" sounds like code for "I used to wake up every Monday morning after a feed of pints with the remnants of last nights kebab all over my chest"
Dave wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:49 pm
I could have been a pro, but I wasn't near good enough. I'm also very unprofessional in most aspects of life. I still read a bit on here. So take from that what you will. Just the shorter posts, though.
"Wasn't near good enough" sounds like code for "I used to wake up every Monday morning after a feed of pints with the remnants of last nights kebab all over my chest"
Doesn't sound like me. I'm definitely finishing that kebab.
thecrouch wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:17 am
I think the frustration comes from the fact that it's very rare to see a player at this level so poor at pretty much every single basic element of the game. If Sexton wasn't really, really fast he wouldn't be within a sniff of pro rugby, that's how unremarkable his other attributes are. Running with the ball in the wrong hand, dropping simple enough passes, not good under the high ball, no footwork whatsoever, weak tackling, it's worrying.
He needs to improve his rugby and improve it fast if he wants a career at Ulster.
I would favour giving him more time.....But not a lot more time........ in general I think we need to get beyond thinking of our 22yo as young starters, especially in the wing positions. English premier rugby is filled with established flying wings of this age.......skills already honed.
That's a very cruel post. The young lad gave up a highly promising athletic career to join Ulster Rugby. Give him another season to see how he gets on.
The last thing a young lad needs is someone like you coming on here and annihilating him. We will see how he gets on after an extended run of games.
I doubt the lad cares what I say on here, but I am not writing him off or annihilating him, nor trying to be cruel.
We can't beat around the bush and fluff it up, his basics are poor and that's the unfortunate reality. McFarland has been very slow to introduce him to the team and we can see why, he's not there yet.
He's 22, so he's young, but IMO he's behind the curve of where you'd expect someone on the fringes of the senior team to be.
You annihilated him. Every single word was detrimental. If I was an impressionable 22 year old lad and read that I would be utterly deflated.
There’s an argument to say that if he’s an impressionable 22 year old lad and deflated then he’s never gonna make it.
Many successful guys get there on the back of proving people wrong.
justinr73 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 pm
There’s an argument to say that if he’s an impressionable 22 year old lad and deflated then he’s never gonna make it.
Many successful guys get there on the back of proving people wrong.
I'd also add if there's a professional rugby player reading this forum it's not just his rugby attributes that needs brought into question
Dan prints these threads off and pins them up on the dressing room wall.
How else are these youngsters going to improve?
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justinr73 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 pm
There’s an argument to say that if he’s an impressionable 22 year old lad and deflated then he’s never gonna make it.
Many successful guys get there on the back of proving people wrong.
I'd also add if there's a professional rugby player reading this forum it's not just his rugby attributes that needs brought into question
Dan prints these threads off and pins them up on the dressing room wall.
justinr73 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:22 pm
There’s an argument to say that if he’s an impressionable 22 year old lad and deflated then he’s never gonna make it.
Many successful guys get there on the back of proving people wrong.
I'd also add if there's a professional rugby player reading this forum it's not just his rugby attributes that needs brought into question
Dan prints these threads off and pins them up on the dressing room wall.