Replacement 10

[BaggyTrousers]

He may need persuasion that we aren't a bunch of basket cases ... would you really want to move here seeing us implode over seasons???? If Joe is reassuring him that Ulster are not going to be ... left to their own marvellous devices and get worse. Then he's doing his job as a national coach.

You may fancy being a captain of a ship but if it's called the Titantic ... you may need persuading that it's not that one, and Celine Delon isn't going to start that bloody awful tune up.

Oh I don't know Fleg, I remember a beautiful warm summers night in Vegas in 2005, the Bellagio fountains dancing to the tune, my Fatboy hovering dangerous close to Mrs T's derriere, being on a promise and considering the whole thing a delightful conglomeration of ones senses being assaulted, from her perfume to the subtle hint of fine cooking drifting across the water from Lago Restaurant of the Bellagio.................. all in all, old Saline sounded mellow.

[rumncoke]

Carberry is between a rock and a hard place both Sexton and Kearney are somewhat injury prone but at 10 he has Byrne while not a hot wire alternative to Sexton he Byrne is more like Sexton as a player ( Jonny no loop )

And at full back there is the possibility that Lamour would get the nod before him ( bigger and more solid and less likely to disappear up his own Brennan )


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[stickinout]

If Carberry needs so much persuading he is better not here. In any event my main concern would be 9 if Cooney is unavailable. I regret Shananahan is just not the man. We have invested a number of years with him, he is 25 and appears not able to learn. One step two step and pass will not work in the professional game and in any event he is just a lightweight. How many times this season has he been thrown around like a rag doll and cost us points. For me he should be the first name on the Dave's for sale list. Centres would I believe improve greatly if we had a quaility backrow and someone in the forwards to carry the ball. As it is McCloskey is the focus to gain ground to the detriment of getting quick ball to the wings.

You're not wrong about shanners, his footwork while passing is Astaire-like but it's not all his fault, his inexperience shows when the pressure is on. He needs better protection. But i can't see how a replacement scrumhalf is more important than our starting 10 position?

I concur with your thinking if we had a decent back row, getting over the gain line, our centre problems would be a lot smaller. Front foot ball is what our team have been missing since Nick Williams left. Our front 8 have too much softness in it, hopefully next year it will be an improvement, but it won't be the finished article.

[Snipe Watson]

If Carberry really wants to come he wouldn't require all this persuasion.

What persuasion? All we are hearing is claptrap and media speculation.
Of all groups of people we should be most aware of how the media spin everything to create maximum controversy.

All we know is that Joe and Nucifuhrer landed at Leinster training, Leo wasn't too impressed and both Carbery and Byrne expressed a preference to stay at Leinster. I'd be shocked if there was any other response. Apart from that it's all guff from the media.
We'll know soon enough what's happening. Let Leinster get their season completed and then things should begin to move. If they're going to.

[Snipe Watson]

What worries me about Carbury is who does he learn from up here ? He is not far advanced in development as a 10 and if Cooney is not playing could have Shanaghan as his 9 which is not exactly awe inspiring either, as far as Ireland goes as well is it really in his interest to come here ?
Byrne is more competent at 10 already so if anyone is being shoved up here Byrne would make more sense and give Carbury more time with Sexton

but then Leinster will be outhalf less during the international windows

There's little chance they let Byrne go for that very reason. Carbery is No2 for Ireland and No3 for Mexico.

[Bring Humph On!!]

If Carberry really wants to come he wouldn't require all this persuasion.

What persuasion? All we are hearing is claptrap and media speculation.
Of all groups of people we should be most aware of how the media spin everything to create maximum controversy.

All we know is that Joe and Nucifuhrer landed at Leinster training, Leo wasn't too impressed and both Carbery and Byrne expressed a preference to stay at Leinster. I'd be shocked if there was any other response. Apart from that it's all guff from the media.
We'll know soon enough what's happening. Let Leinster get their season completed and then things should begin to move. If they're going to.

Absolutely agree Snipe & as you say we as Ulster fans should be more aware of that than anyone following the recent press shenanigans.

[scrum5]

We don't need a 9 and a 10....we need a Ruan. and I'd also think about suing the Lions for breaking Jared.

[Columbo]

No thanks LeLe.

Am I the only person who wants carbery at ulster?

He will play 10 for a year if even that then move to 15 WHEN (definitely not an IF) Lowry comes through.

Not sold on Mcphillips but has done ok. I know it’s early days but I don’t think he’s quite good enough.

Carbery said he was happy at Leinster, that’s not saying he doesn’t want to come to ulster. I would be happy being apart of arguably the best club side in the world.
From what I understand Carbery had issues at the weekend. I think he will be up north but going on my recent track record with Friend I could be wrong.




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agree with all the above...


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[Tender]

Very few Ruans in the World. He had a fantastic Rugby brain, was a great physical specimen, his box kicking was worth turning up early on Friday nights, just to watch him practise them. His passing was great and he charged down kicks for fun.
Shanananana-nana has none of the above....NONE.
We have Cooney, who is a decent 9. Then we’ve got nothing.
Back on topic... McPhillips has a lot of room for improvement, but who’s he gonna learn from?

9 & 10, both problem positions.
The Pack, too saft.
Hendo’s Knee..light candles and sacrifice chickens.
If Cave plays and Jirrid gets sorted we might be ok there.

[BaggyTrousers]

Like Dan McFarland, Darren Cave has a Grand Slam to his name, 2007 U20s - I digress slightly but the year Luke Fitzgerald was too good to bother with the U20s, was replaced by Felix Jones and they Slammed.

I'm hoping that despite having been a prop, McFarland knows what makes a good centre partnership and it is not with two guys with skillsets that do not mesh. Big Stu & NHL are a dire partnership. Two seasons back I called NHL the best centre in the country such was his form that year, however, you go back to Jan 2017 against Clermont and for my money Luke's form has dipped since then, this season he has no tries and only 2 assists. For a 13, really? Luke's last try was that Clermont game, over 15 months with no try.

[Gael]

He should want to go to Belfast. He needs experience starting at 10. It will be an absolute trial by fire working behind our chocolate pack for a year or two. A great challenge.

If it is his position that he would rather ride the pine behind Kearney, Sexton and Byrne - then he is not interested in being an integral part of the Ireland team therefore it is not in the IRFU's interest to pursue him as an option for second choice to Sexton.

[BR]

If Carberry comes and we keep McPhilips, how are we going to develop our own? Has to be one or the other.

[prawnsarnies]

Carbery for one year

https://amp.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... ssion=true

[Dave]

Great news. A whole year? So lucky. Meanwhile Paddy can't even find a club.


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[jean valjean]

Love how this is seen to hit Leinster the hardest. Ulster help him develop for a year then he goes back a better player and Ulster are back to square one.

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