Heineken Cup seeding.
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Heineken Cup seeding.
Reckon we're about 3rd seeds as things stand, with the chance to improve that in the play-offs?
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Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
If Ulster win on Saturday, they will be Pot 3 at worst. If they lose and Munster also lose - Pot 4, if Munster win and Ulster lose - Pot 3.big mervyn wrote:Reckon we're about 3rd seeds as things stand, with the chance to improve that in the play-offs?
Pot 1: Pro 14 No 1, T14 No 1, Prem No 1, 2 of (Pro 14 No 2, T14 No 2, Prem No 2)
Pot 2: 1 of (Pro 14 No 2, T14 No 2, Prem No 2), Pro 14 No 3, T14 No 3, Prem No 3, 1 of (Pro 14 No 4, T14 No 4, Prem No 4)
Pot 3: 2 of (Pro 14 No 4, T14 No 4, Prem No 4), Pro 14 No 5, T14 No 5, Prem No 5
Pot 4: Pro 14 No 6, T14 No 6, Prem No 6, Pro 14 No 7, Bonus Side
*The league which has its 2nd side placed in Pot 2 will also have its 4th side placed in Pot 2
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Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
So could get Pot 2 by beating Connacht and could get Pot 1 by reaching the final.
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Heineken Cup seeding.
Premiership with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, T14 No 2
Pot 2: Prem No 2, T14 No 3, Gloucester, Saints
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pro 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, T14 No 2, Prem No 2
Pot 2: Ulster
Pot 3: T14 No 4, Saints, T14 No 5, Quins
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Top 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, Prem No 2
Pot 2: T14 No 2, T14 No 3, Gloucester, T14 No 4
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, T14 No 2
Pot 2: Prem No 2, T14 No 3, Gloucester, Saints
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pro 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, T14 No 2, Prem No 2
Pot 2: Ulster
Pot 3: T14 No 4, Saints, T14 No 5, Quins
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Top 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, Prem No 2
Pot 2: T14 No 2, T14 No 3, Gloucester, T14 No 4
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
The draw is on 19 June.
Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
Premiership with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, T14 No 2
Pot 2: Prem No 2, T14 No 3, Gloucester, Saints
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pro 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, T14 No 2, Prem No 2
Pot 2: Ulster
Pot 3: T14 No 4, Saints, T14 No 5, Quins
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Top 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, Prem No 2
Pot 2: T14 No 2, T14 No 3, Gloucester, T14 No 4
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, T14 No 2
Pot 2: Prem No 2, T14 No 3, Gloucester, Saints
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pro 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, T14 No 2, Prem No 2
Pot 2: Ulster
Pot 3: T14 No 4, Saints, T14 No 5, Quins
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Top 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Prem No 1, Prem No 2
Pot 2: T14 No 2, T14 No 3, Gloucester, T14 No 4
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, T14 No 6, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
Montpellier into Pot 4 of the draw, 20% chance of a return to the Med next season.
Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
Premiership with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, T14 No 2
Pot 2: Chiefs, T14 No 3, Gloucester, Saints
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pro 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, T14 No 2, Chiefs
Pot 2: Ulster
Pot 3: T14 No 4, Saints, Racing 92, Quins
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Top 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, Chiefs
Pot 2: T14 No 2, T14 No 3, Gloucester, T14 No 4
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, T14 No 2
Pot 2: Chiefs, T14 No 3, Gloucester, Saints
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pro 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, T14 No 2, Chiefs
Pot 2: Ulster
Pot 3: T14 No 4, Saints, Racing 92, Quins
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Top 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, Chiefs
Pot 2: T14 No 2, T14 No 3, Gloucester, T14 No 4
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
In the scenario Toulouse beat Clermont in the Top 14 final what way does that leave the pots?
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Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
Toulouse would be Top 14 No 1 and Clermont Top 14 No 2 in such a scenario. Toulouse would be in Pot 1 with Clermont also in Pot 1 except for the scenario where the Top 14 has 3 sides in Pot 2, then Clermont would be in Pot 2.UlsterNo9 wrote:In the scenario Toulouse beat Clermont in the Top 14 final what way does that leave the pots?
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Thanks Neill, what scenario would mean France had three teams in Pot 2. What determines this?
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Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
On the day of the draw, there is a mini draw before the main one which determines which league has teams 2, 3 and 4 in Pot 2.UlsterNo9 wrote:Thanks Neill, what scenario would mean France had three teams in Pot 2. What determines this?
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Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
Premiership with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, T14 No 2
Pot 2: Chiefs, Lyon, Gloucester, Saints
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pro 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, T14 No 2, Chiefs
Pot 2: Ulster
Pot 3: La Rochelle, Saints, Racing 92, Quins
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Top 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, Chiefs
Pot 2: T14 No 2, Lyon, Gloucester, La Rochelle
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, T14 No 2
Pot 2: Chiefs, Lyon, Gloucester, Saints
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pro 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, T14 No 2, Chiefs
Pot 2: Ulster
Pot 3: La Rochelle, Saints, Racing 92, Quins
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Top 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, Chiefs
Pot 2: T14 No 2, Lyon, Gloucester, La Rochelle
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
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Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
Thanks Neill.Neill_M wrote:Premiership with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, T14 No 2
Pot 2: Chiefs, Lyon, Gloucester, Saints
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Pro 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, T14 No 2, Chiefs
Pot 2: Ulster
Pot 3: La Rochelle, Saints, Racing 92, Quins
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Top 14 with 3 sides in Pot 2:
Pot 1: T14 No 1, Saracens, Chiefs
Pot 2: T14 No 2, Lyon, Gloucester, La Rochelle
Pot 3: Ulster
Pot 4: Benetton, Montpellier, Bath, Ospreys, Sale
Seems to me, being in pot 2 doesn’t convey much of a benefit, if any.
Re: Heineken Cup seeding.
Looking at possible draws, whether Ulster are in Pot 2/3 doesn't seem to matter. From a trip point of view, Pot 3 would be better as Gloucester/Lyon are then possible. Never been to Toulouse or Gloucester and Ulster have never played Lyon in the Heineken Cup.
Of the Pot 4 sides - Montpellier/Benetton/Bath would be good. Ospreys/Sale would be
Draw is next Wednesday of course.
Of the Pot 4 sides - Montpellier/Benetton/Bath would be good. Ospreys/Sale would be
Draw is next Wednesday of course.