Lions Vs Ulster Saturday 15th October 1pm kick off Premier Sports 1

[Dave]

Back to the AIL. Or maybe the track.

[nonplussed]

Only one winger in travelling party which must mean that mcilroy is fit to play.

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Sexton didn’t have 9 lives.


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Back to Daddy Winkers Lane for some learnin'

[Neill_M]

SATURDAY, OCTOBER 15
Emirates Lions v Ulster
Emirates Airline Park, Pretoria – KO 13.00 IRE & UK / 14.00 ITA & SA
Referee: Sam Grove-White (SRU, 28th league game)
AR 1: Jaco Peyper (SARU) AR 2: Griffin Colby (SARU)
TMO: Ben Blain (SRU)

[Setanta]

Carter and Izzy the only two second-rows ?!

[allezlesverres]

Carter and Izzy the only two second-rows ?!

Treadwell must be expected to be fit for the second game and AOC has travelled as well. Presumably AOC and Carter to start with Izzy on the bench v Lions.

[Neill_M]

Carter and Izzy the only two second-rows ?!

AOC was left out from original list due to typo etc.

[pip14]

Sutherland
Herring
O’Toole
O’Connor
Izuchukwu
Rea
Timoney
Vermulen
Doak
Burns
Mcilroy
Marshall
Hume
Baloucoune
Lowry

[Cap'n Grumpy]

It's going be a tough game against the Lions and I think we will need a strong bench to finish off the game.

I would start with quite a few of the Emerging Ireland players (namely Doak, Flannery, Moore, Baloucoune, Stewart and possibly Izuchukwu) as they will have have been well acclimatised to the high veld by then. That means that we can fill the bench with our front line players for maximum impact.

Then for the Stormers (at sea level) we play our best team.

We play the Sharks away, Stormers at home this season.

Indeed - apologies . But the Sharks are still at sea level - so my point is still valid!!

Sharks must be below sea-level shirley?

[Cap'n Grumpy]

I understand that rationale, but to me, if Ulster fancy themselves as potential champions, they should try to win every single game. Sacrificing a game would be horrible for morale and would send a message to the players and every other team that we aren’t good enough to win.

Correct.

That was the plan in yesteryear, but that mindset should be a thing of the past now.

[10 or 15 only]

I understand that rationale, but to me, if Ulster fancy themselves as potential champions, they should try to win every single game. Sacrificing a game would be horrible for morale and would send a message to the players and every other team that we aren’t good enough to win.

Correct.

That was the plan in yesteryear, but that mindset should be a thing of the past now.

Indeed, Cap’n. I am assuming your” yesteryear “ in an anagram of “Les kiss”.

[Cap'n Grumpy]

I understand that rationale, but to me, if Ulster fancy themselves as potential champions, they should try to win every single game. Sacrificing a game would be horrible for morale and would send a message to the players and every other team that we aren’t good enough to win.

Correct.

That was the plan in yesteryear, but that mindset should be a thing of the past now.

Indeed, Cap’n. I am assuming your” yesteryear “ in an anagram of “Les kiss”.

Les kiss wasn't the only one, but bear in mind in the past we did have to target results and put up with a few hidings, but if we're talking of winning silverware, as we seem to be, we should be competing in every match now.

Do I think we are going to win silverware? Nah, but I'd rather we tried, and I'm happy to be proved wrong.

[jean valjean]

I understand that rationale, but to me, if Ulster fancy themselves as potential champions, they should try to win every single game. Sacrificing a game would be horrible for morale and would send a message to the players and every other team that we aren’t good enough to win.

Correct.

That was the plan in yesteryear, but that mindset should be a thing of the past now.

Indeed, Cap’n. I am assuming your” yesteryear “ in an anagram of “Les kiss”.

Les kiss wasn't the only one, but bear in mind in the past we did have to target results and put up with a few hidings, but if we're talking of winning silverware, as we seem to be, we should be competing in every match now.

Do I think we are going to win silverware? Nah, but I'd rather we tried, and I'm happy to be proved wrong.

The days of throwing 13 youngsters to the wolves are over but unless you have a squad like leinster there will always be a risk of turning what should be an 80% chance of a win into a 50/50 game via Selection. The need to manage 8-10 key players who we need available on the big occasions will always dictate Selection and is probably well mapped out in advance.

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[kUD]

https://www.sarugbymag.co.za/bone-collector-back-lions/


Lions – 15 Andries Coetzee, 14 Edwill van der Merwe, 13 Henco van Wyk, 12 Marius Louw, 11 Quan Horn, 10 Gianni Lombard, 9 Sanele Nohamba, 8 Francke Horn, 7 Ruan Venter, 6 Emmanuel Tshituka, 5 Reinhard Nothnagel (c), 4 Willem Alberts, 3 Ruan Dreyer, 2 Jaco Visagie, 1 JP Smith.
Subs: 16 PJ Botha, 17 Sti Sithole, 18 Ruan Smith, 19 Pieter Jansen van Vuren, 20 Sibusiso Sangweni, 21 Morne van den Berg, 22 Jordan Hendrikse, 23 Zander du Plessis

[Neill_M]

"The Bone Collector" Willem Alberts is now 38 years young, his first game for 8 months.

[Dave]

"The Bone Collector" Willem Alberts is now 38 years young, his first game for 8 months.

The pension collector will probably still rattle a few bones.