shamalicious wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:30 pm
FWIW, I heard The42.ie clip of Jackman saying it was a "bad crowd", and it seems he meant it in the context of poor numbers in attendance.
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Not what I took from it Sham. From a numbers POV apart from some of the hospitality and about 1/5 of the Family stand Ravers was about what 14/ 15k? Not insubstantial. I felt he was alluding more to "the wrong sort".
Just an opinion. Happy to be corrected. I'm just sensitive I guess
Also thought he was talking about numbers fwiw
What was the official crowd?- it was hardly Ospreys level empty from 2018...
Was well north of 12k given max capacity is 17.5k odd
Sorry CI but it was nowhere near “well north of 12k” more like might have just scraped 12k!! I dread to think of what your assessment of 6 or 7 inches looks like!! And yes Jackman was referencing the size of the crowd as he referred to the fact that it was not included in ST holders allocation etc.
I’ve just watched the first half again and it looked to me that the ref’s decisions went slightly Ulster’s way overall. Two big calls in Ulster’s favour were in scrums which could easily have ended in penalties. The big decision against Ulster was missing the forearm clear out on Stu which should have been a penalty and a yellow card.
On that performance Connacht would have troubled any team in the URC, but Ulster made it easy with some awful play by most of the team. Can’t bear to watch the second half.
Sir Ivor wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:29 pm
I’ve just watched the first half again and it looked to me that the ref’s decisions went slightly Ulster’s way overall. Two big calls in Ulster’s favour were in scrums which could easily have ended in penalties. The big decision against Ulster was missing the forearm clear out on Stu which should have been a penalty and a yellow card.
On that performance Connacht would have troubled any team in the URC, but Ulster made it easy with some awful play by most of the team. Can’t bear to watch the second half.
And I thought my Friday night in was grim....
Wonder if there are enough Ulster shockers/chokes to watch every Friday night until the new season starts in October and we can experience it live again....from our sofas in some cases.
shamalicious wrote: ↑Wed May 10, 2023 6:30 pm
FWIW, I heard The42.ie clip of Jackman saying it was a "bad crowd", and it seems he meant it in the context of poor numbers in attendance.
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Not what I took from it Sham. From a numbers POV apart from some of the hospitality and about 1/5 of the Family stand Ravers was about what 14/ 15k? Not insubstantial. I felt he was alluding more to "the wrong sort".
Just an opinion. Happy to be corrected. I'm just sensitive I guess
Also thought he was talking about numbers fwiw
What was the official crowd?- it was hardly Ospreys level empty from 2018...
Was well north of 12k given max capacity is 17.5k odd
Sorry CI but it was nowhere near “well north of 12k” more like might have just scraped 12k!! I dread to think of what your assessment of 6 or 7 inches looks like!! And yes Jackman was referencing the size of the crowd as he referred to the fact that it was not included in ST holders allocation etc.
so what was it Hans? From where I was it looked well filled apart from hospitality and east side of the family stand as I said. And I had an elevated view.
From an alternative perspective is 12k and above a bad crowd given Leireland regularly get the same to 14 in Oards, boosted only by big games in Aviva? In UK terms most teams bar Leicester would kill for it. Bad crowd my hole- we're in the realms of crowd blaming rather than the shyte served up on the pitch just to get back on message rather than a tangent I'm sorry I started
Babies arm btw
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Sir Ivor wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 10:29 pm
I’ve just watched the first half again and it looked to me that the ref’s decisions went slightly Ulster’s way overall. Two big calls in Ulster’s favour were in scrums which could easily have ended in penalties. The big decision against Ulster was missing the forearm clear out on Stu which should have been a penalty and a yellow card.
On that performance Connacht would have troubled any team in the URC, but Ulster made it easy with some awful play by most of the team. Can’t bear to watch the second half.
And I thought my Friday night in was grim....
Wonder if there are enough Ulster shockers/chokes to watch every Friday night until the new season starts in October and we can experience it live again....from our sofas in some cases.
UlsterNo9 wrote:I see Dublin born, South Cork raised and schooled, ex Connacht player Frank Murphy is the man in the middle for the Leinster Vs Munster game today.
I wonder what mental gymnastics some will come up with to decide who Frank will go hell bent to ensure a certain team wins.
He might also just do his job, that he's paid for and assessed on by an independent referee panel.
Chris Busby announced as one of the 26 match officials at this years World Cup. Ulster will have at least one representative there.
UlsterNo9 wrote: ↑Sat May 13, 2023 7:26 am
I see Dublin born, South Cork raised and schooled, ex Connacht player Frank Murphy is the man in the middle for the Leinster Vs Munster game today.
I wonder what mental gymnastics some will come up with to decide who Frank will go hell bent to ensure a certain team wins.
He might also just do his job, that he's paid for and assessed on by an independent referee panel.
Chris Busby announced as one of the 26 match officials at this years World Cup. Ulster will have at least one representative there.
Brace and Murphy, both Munster Branch refs and both formerly employed by Munster Rugby, between them have reffed 9 of the last 13 games between Leinster and Munster.
I don’t agree with the view that certain refs hate Ulster. Some are definitely better than others usually they improve with experience - when they are inexperienced 50/50 calls often go to the home side or the big name side. Some of the worst reffing IMHO, was from Adamson some years back but he has improved. Wasn’t Busby the boy who (bravely) disallowed a try for offside when Scarlets second rower charged nearly the length of the field recently?
By the way, I’m more of a reader than a poster (a good reason for that probably) and I hope Justin has not gone for good - he’s certainly one of the best on here.
And yes Jackman was referencing the size of the crowd as he referred to the fact that it was not included in ST holders allocation etc.
so what was it Hans? From where I was it looked well filled apart from hospitality and east side of the family stand as I said. And I had an elevated view. 
